PLEASE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SEE ANY EMAILS ABOUT THIS DEAL EMAIL ME< I HAVE THEM ALL>>>THANK YOU!! HERES THE TRACKING NUMBER OF WHEN CUE WAS SENT!! IT DOESNT SHOW UP BECAUSE IT WAS SOO LONG AGO>>0304-1070-0002-0851-7668
okay mark smith>>> if you are going to post things at least tell the TRUTH??? i DID NOT get the cue in oct 04>>>it wasnt until JAN 05!!! below are copies of emails that were sent back and forth with info and even in the dates ANYONE can see that you yourself didnt send anything to me until the end of dec and i got them first of JAN 2005!!! and you were NEVER told that they were lost and found an lost again!!! THATS BS!!! as everyone NEEDS to know i had some health issues and was in the hospital for a period of time!! YOU WERE EMAILED WITH THAT INFO TOO!!! the cue was sent and lost!!! you were informed of that too!! but you were upset because of the cues being made by your nephew and i dont blame you!! the insurance wasnt going to pay much for the cues because they DO NOT pay for sentimental value, only actual value. so instead of just giving up i BUSTED MY BUTT and ARGUED with the postal service and had a relative who is a postmaster do a special favor for me by REALLY looking for the item for us, so you could get it back. normally they would have given you a few dollars for the ins and that was it!! BUT AGAIN i went OUT OF MY WAY to try and help!! THIS IS THE KIND OF THANKS I GET??? NICE!!! YES you were emailed on the 29th of sept and i said they would be in hand by end of the next week!! the cues were picked up by my fiance and as soon as i get home this week they will be sent to you!! you DID NOT send 5 emails!!! YOU SENT 2!! AND I REPLIED WITH THE SAME INFO AS I HAVE PUT HERE!!! just as i told you i am out of town until nov 2 or 3 and the cues will be sent as soon as i get home!!! so all of this BS you post is nothing but as i said BS!!! i have ALL the emails to show this for ANYONE who wants to see them. just email and ask please!! please read below for copies of the emails which show when the cue REALLY was sent!!! thanks you MARK SMITH for this lesson though. and that is i will NEVER go out of my way to help anyone or do anything extra for someone again!! all other cue makers and repair guys PLEASE dont let this happen to you!! and for all who decided to slam me without getting the WHOLE TRUTHFUL story maybe next time before you jump the gun and throw all these accusations around you should ask for more info and both sides!!
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:51:27 -0800 (PST)
From: "david huff" <huffcues@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Pool Cue
To: "Mark Smith" <mksmith713@hotmail.com>
i just got the cue...let me know what you need doen with it...thanks
Mark Smith <mksmith713@hotmail.com> wrote: Dave,
Can you give me a yell and let me know when the cue gets there.
I think I may want to make the shaft a little smaller on both shafts.
Mark
>From: david huff
>To: Mark
>Subject: Re: Pool Cue
>Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:07:36 -0800 (PST)
>
>okay thats fine...if yuo already have the tip i will turn it down and
>rework the ferulle and put tip on for $10..thanks
>
>Mark wrote
avid,
> I'm going to get the cue ready for shipment.
>I also have another vintage cue that I'd like to start using.
>The ferrule has come loose and needs to be reguled, I need to replace the
>tip and I'd like to have the shaft taken down to 12 1/2 mm.
>I'll send that along with a Talisman soft tip that I like to use.
>Can you give me a new total?
>
>Thanks,
>Mark
>----- Original Message -----
>From: david huff
>To: Mark Smith
>Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 4:49 PM
>Subject: Re: Pool Cue
>
>
>i alread yreplied to the other email..but i think i can keep the signature
>for you...it should be kept on it in this case...if nothing else maybe if
>soem of it comes off a little i can just take a black pen and trace over
>the signature to keep it in tact for you...i will make sure it is left for
>you.....i sent address and info to you in last email...basically $90 for
>job and $10 shipping back to you...so $100....does sound fair enough??
>
>Mark Smith wrote: Butt cap material really doesn't
>matter much to me. As long as the cue is
>playable, I'll be happy.
>I plan on getting back into the game and this cue hits soooo nicely.
>The least expensive would be best.
>I'd hate to lose the signature, but if there's no other way, I understand.
>This cue was made by my late nephew who used to work for a couple of
>dfferent cue makers in this area.
>He bounced from job to job, getting in time over in Arbutus with Timmy
>Scruggs, then up in Towson at Joss, then for a short time down in Pasadena
>with Rich Phillippi.
>Unfortunately, he died in an automobile accident back in 2000.
>So there's definately a sentimental value more than anything.
>If we can get her back into playing condition, I'll be happy.
>Don't worry too much about the signature. I'll know in my heart who made
>this cue, and I'll cherish it just the same.
>
>Give me a total and shipping address and she'll be on the way.
>
>Thanks,
>Mark
>
>
> >From: david huff
> >To: Mark
> >Subject: Re: Pool Cue
> >Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:12:00 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >okay yes i see where you say the whole cue needs finishing...you just
>tell
> >me what kind of buttcap you want on it....here is a pic of a cue that i
>am
> >finshing that i made and notice the lacewood butt cap i put on it...that
> >might look good on this cue. or just maple or pretty much any wood you
>may
> >want just let me know...i thnik lacewood or maple or cocabolo will match
> >good and look good too... or if you want ivory or just a black or white
> >fiber material i can do that too. as far as maching the cue ball i dotn
> >really have the right equipment to do that. let me know what you think
> >about the lacewood or another wood. or if you want fiber or ivory...to
> >refinish a cue i charge $70. the price for butt will depend on material.
> >the only thing im concerned about is the signature?? i normally go ahead
> >and take off all the finish which is the best way. but if i do that it
>will
> >take away the signature>>> i can try to work the finish on the cue now
> >without completely taking it off and maybe be
> > able to keep the name on it. but the hard part will be to blend the
> >finishs so they look well. does the name itslef haev a good coat of
>finish
> >on it or is it worn off?? if it has good finsih over it and you want to
> >keep name i should be able to blend it okay. that may take a little more
> >time. if you are not concerned with the name staying it wont take as
>long.
> >let me know your thoughts on that. thanks
> >
> >Mark wrote: Here are a few photos of the cue.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: david huff
> >To: Mark
> >Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:16 AM
> >Subject: Re: Pool Cue
> >
> >
> >i will look for pics...thanks
> >
> >Mark wrote: Dave, the entire butt needs to be
> >refinished.The chipping a flaking is on the forearm and butt section.
> >The material the butt cap is made from doesn't really matter.
> >Heck you could even make it out of wood.Maybe birdseye maple to match the
> >forearm.
> >I also have a second antique cue ball if you wanted to machine a butt cap
> >out of that and you could keep the remainder to use for inlays.
> >I'll work on some detailed photos this weekend and get them out to you.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Mark
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: david huff
> >To: Mark Smith
> >Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:51 PM
> >Subject: Re: Pool Cue
> >
> >
> >yes i can replace the butt cap for you..if you want just basic white
> >material it is not as high as it would be if you want ivory...alos if i
> >dont take the finish off the whole cue to keep the signature on it in
>tact
> >it will not be too high...send me some pics of it..if i can just refinsh
> >the bottm part and replace butt cap i will charge $50...if you do want an
> >ivory butt cap which is probably what the cue ball was it will be
> >$90-100...the ivory butt cap alone costs about $60. thsi is a
> >estimate...but if you sned me good up close pics of all parts of cue i
>can
> >tell you better for sure...thanks
> >
> >Mark Smith wrote: Thanks for the feedback.
> >
> >Another question.
> >I have a Custom "Justin Smith" cue that my son borrowed without my
> >knowledge
> >and left in the trunk of his car for quite some time.
> >With the temperature changes in this part of the country, the finsih is
> >wrecked and the butt cap has broken into many pieces.
> >The butt cap is beyond repair, which is sad because the butt cap, inlays
> >and
> >ferrule were all cut from an antique cue ball.
> >
> >The area where the maker signed the cue is faded a bit but still legible.
> >The butt cap had the initials "JS" engraved, sort of the way Timmy
>Scruggs
> >does his.
> >
> >I know it'll never be the same as it was when it was made, but if I can
>get
> >it back to a nice condition, I'd be happy.
> >
> >Do you replace butt caps and refinish butt sections of cues?
> >
> >If so, what kind of cost am I looking at?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Mark
> >
> > >From: david huff
> > >To: Mark
> > >Subject: Re: Pool Cue
> > >Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 12:30:07 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >that cue does resemble the ah2 AMERICANA cue...as far as the adam logo
> > >sometimes they do get taken off maybe for refinish or just worn off.
>the
> > >stickers may be valid , or they may be just soemthing someone stuck on
> > >there?? but since it came from your relatives estate chances are they
> > >probably are legitimate. that cue was made between mid 70's early
> > >80's...its value is at 100% $165, 90% $130, 70% $85...this info is from
>a
> > >blue book of pool cues. the market for these cues is really not where
>it
> > >should be though. the older production cues like this are mainly in the
> > >higher end cues with alot of inlays and points. i have a few of these
> > >similar cues myself and some higher ends also. your best bet is
>probably
> >to
> > >either put it in a safe place and keep it for some years for collector
> > >value. in about 15-20 years this cue will be worth alot more. i will
>say
> >in
> > >lets say 20 years the cue will be worth around $400-500..this is just
>my
> > >best estimate if the market stays about where its at by then.
> > > as i said i have soem of the same and that what i did with them...to
> >sell
> > >them right now you MIGHT be able to get $70-100 for it. if it were me i
> > >wouldnt play with it, but then again i have plenty of cues to use. i
> >would
> > >consider putting it away for the future and just buying a nice cue to
>use
> > >myself if i were you. i hope thsi helps, if i can hel;p you in anyway
> >just
> > >elt me know. i do sell cues on consignment and also do repairs and sell
> >all
> > >custom and production cues and cases. i have also started making custom
> > >cues. i have actually been making them for awhile but had to get the
> > >quality that i wanted before i started selling any. let me know if i
>can
> > >help you in ANY way. thanks
> > >
> > >Mark wrote:I recently came into possesion of an
> > >olod cue from my late Great Uncles estate.
> > >I plan on keeping it, but I found, through Proficient Billiard web
>site,
> > >that you are knowledgable in older cues and thought you might be able
>to
> > >help me.
> > >
> > >The cue is an old Adam, model A/H-2 in 19 ounces.
> > >It doesn't have the usual Adam logo in the butt cap, but instead, it
>has
> > >stickers on the butt with the logo on onje sticker, the weight on
>another
> > >and the model on yet another.
> > >
> > >Someone told me this is one of the first models Adam made after formig
>a
> > >partnership with Rich Helmstetter back in 1968, hence the model number
> >A/H.
> > >Is that the case?
> > >
> > >Is this cue collectible?
> > >If so, I won't play with it.
> > >
> > >I'm also attaching a few photos.
> > >
okay mark smith>>> if you are going to post things at least tell the TRUTH??? i DID NOT get the cue in oct 04>>>it wasnt until JAN 05!!! below are copies of emails that were sent back and forth with info and even in the dates ANYONE can see that you yourself didnt send anything to me until the end of dec and i got them first of JAN 2005!!! and you were NEVER told that they were lost and found an lost again!!! THATS BS!!! as everyone NEEDS to know i had some health issues and was in the hospital for a period of time!! YOU WERE EMAILED WITH THAT INFO TOO!!! the cue was sent and lost!!! you were informed of that too!! but you were upset because of the cues being made by your nephew and i dont blame you!! the insurance wasnt going to pay much for the cues because they DO NOT pay for sentimental value, only actual value. so instead of just giving up i BUSTED MY BUTT and ARGUED with the postal service and had a relative who is a postmaster do a special favor for me by REALLY looking for the item for us, so you could get it back. normally they would have given you a few dollars for the ins and that was it!! BUT AGAIN i went OUT OF MY WAY to try and help!! THIS IS THE KIND OF THANKS I GET??? NICE!!! YES you were emailed on the 29th of sept and i said they would be in hand by end of the next week!! the cues were picked up by my fiance and as soon as i get home this week they will be sent to you!! you DID NOT send 5 emails!!! YOU SENT 2!! AND I REPLIED WITH THE SAME INFO AS I HAVE PUT HERE!!! just as i told you i am out of town until nov 2 or 3 and the cues will be sent as soon as i get home!!! so all of this BS you post is nothing but as i said BS!!! i have ALL the emails to show this for ANYONE who wants to see them. just email and ask please!! please read below for copies of the emails which show when the cue REALLY was sent!!! thanks you MARK SMITH for this lesson though. and that is i will NEVER go out of my way to help anyone or do anything extra for someone again!! all other cue makers and repair guys PLEASE dont let this happen to you!! and for all who decided to slam me without getting the WHOLE TRUTHFUL story maybe next time before you jump the gun and throw all these accusations around you should ask for more info and both sides!!
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:51:27 -0800 (PST)
From: "david huff" <huffcues@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Pool Cue
To: "Mark Smith" <mksmith713@hotmail.com>
i just got the cue...let me know what you need doen with it...thanks
Mark Smith <mksmith713@hotmail.com> wrote: Dave,
Can you give me a yell and let me know when the cue gets there.
I think I may want to make the shaft a little smaller on both shafts.
Mark
>From: david huff
>To: Mark
>Subject: Re: Pool Cue
>Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:07:36 -0800 (PST)
>
>okay thats fine...if yuo already have the tip i will turn it down and
>rework the ferulle and put tip on for $10..thanks
>
>Mark wrote
avid,> I'm going to get the cue ready for shipment.
>I also have another vintage cue that I'd like to start using.
>The ferrule has come loose and needs to be reguled, I need to replace the
>tip and I'd like to have the shaft taken down to 12 1/2 mm.
>I'll send that along with a Talisman soft tip that I like to use.
>Can you give me a new total?
>
>Thanks,
>Mark
>----- Original Message -----
>From: david huff
>To: Mark Smith
>Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 4:49 PM
>Subject: Re: Pool Cue
>
>
>i alread yreplied to the other email..but i think i can keep the signature
>for you...it should be kept on it in this case...if nothing else maybe if
>soem of it comes off a little i can just take a black pen and trace over
>the signature to keep it in tact for you...i will make sure it is left for
>you.....i sent address and info to you in last email...basically $90 for
>job and $10 shipping back to you...so $100....does sound fair enough??
>
>Mark Smith wrote: Butt cap material really doesn't
>matter much to me. As long as the cue is
>playable, I'll be happy.
>I plan on getting back into the game and this cue hits soooo nicely.
>The least expensive would be best.
>I'd hate to lose the signature, but if there's no other way, I understand.
>This cue was made by my late nephew who used to work for a couple of
>dfferent cue makers in this area.
>He bounced from job to job, getting in time over in Arbutus with Timmy
>Scruggs, then up in Towson at Joss, then for a short time down in Pasadena
>with Rich Phillippi.
>Unfortunately, he died in an automobile accident back in 2000.
>So there's definately a sentimental value more than anything.
>If we can get her back into playing condition, I'll be happy.
>Don't worry too much about the signature. I'll know in my heart who made
>this cue, and I'll cherish it just the same.
>
>Give me a total and shipping address and she'll be on the way.
>
>Thanks,
>Mark
>
>
> >From: david huff
> >To: Mark
> >Subject: Re: Pool Cue
> >Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:12:00 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >okay yes i see where you say the whole cue needs finishing...you just
>tell
> >me what kind of buttcap you want on it....here is a pic of a cue that i
>am
> >finshing that i made and notice the lacewood butt cap i put on it...that
> >might look good on this cue. or just maple or pretty much any wood you
>may
> >want just let me know...i thnik lacewood or maple or cocabolo will match
> >good and look good too... or if you want ivory or just a black or white
> >fiber material i can do that too. as far as maching the cue ball i dotn
> >really have the right equipment to do that. let me know what you think
> >about the lacewood or another wood. or if you want fiber or ivory...to
> >refinish a cue i charge $70. the price for butt will depend on material.
> >the only thing im concerned about is the signature?? i normally go ahead
> >and take off all the finish which is the best way. but if i do that it
>will
> >take away the signature>>> i can try to work the finish on the cue now
> >without completely taking it off and maybe be
> > able to keep the name on it. but the hard part will be to blend the
> >finishs so they look well. does the name itslef haev a good coat of
>finish
> >on it or is it worn off?? if it has good finsih over it and you want to
> >keep name i should be able to blend it okay. that may take a little more
> >time. if you are not concerned with the name staying it wont take as
>long.
> >let me know your thoughts on that. thanks
> >
> >Mark wrote: Here are a few photos of the cue.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: david huff
> >To: Mark
> >Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:16 AM
> >Subject: Re: Pool Cue
> >
> >
> >i will look for pics...thanks
> >
> >Mark wrote: Dave, the entire butt needs to be
> >refinished.The chipping a flaking is on the forearm and butt section.
> >The material the butt cap is made from doesn't really matter.
> >Heck you could even make it out of wood.Maybe birdseye maple to match the
> >forearm.
> >I also have a second antique cue ball if you wanted to machine a butt cap
> >out of that and you could keep the remainder to use for inlays.
> >I'll work on some detailed photos this weekend and get them out to you.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Mark
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: david huff
> >To: Mark Smith
> >Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:51 PM
> >Subject: Re: Pool Cue
> >
> >
> >yes i can replace the butt cap for you..if you want just basic white
> >material it is not as high as it would be if you want ivory...alos if i
> >dont take the finish off the whole cue to keep the signature on it in
>tact
> >it will not be too high...send me some pics of it..if i can just refinsh
> >the bottm part and replace butt cap i will charge $50...if you do want an
> >ivory butt cap which is probably what the cue ball was it will be
> >$90-100...the ivory butt cap alone costs about $60. thsi is a
> >estimate...but if you sned me good up close pics of all parts of cue i
>can
> >tell you better for sure...thanks
> >
> >Mark Smith wrote: Thanks for the feedback.
> >
> >Another question.
> >I have a Custom "Justin Smith" cue that my son borrowed without my
> >knowledge
> >and left in the trunk of his car for quite some time.
> >With the temperature changes in this part of the country, the finsih is
> >wrecked and the butt cap has broken into many pieces.
> >The butt cap is beyond repair, which is sad because the butt cap, inlays
> >and
> >ferrule were all cut from an antique cue ball.
> >
> >The area where the maker signed the cue is faded a bit but still legible.
> >The butt cap had the initials "JS" engraved, sort of the way Timmy
>Scruggs
> >does his.
> >
> >I know it'll never be the same as it was when it was made, but if I can
>get
> >it back to a nice condition, I'd be happy.
> >
> >Do you replace butt caps and refinish butt sections of cues?
> >
> >If so, what kind of cost am I looking at?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Mark
> >
> > >From: david huff
> > >To: Mark
> > >Subject: Re: Pool Cue
> > >Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 12:30:07 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >that cue does resemble the ah2 AMERICANA cue...as far as the adam logo
> > >sometimes they do get taken off maybe for refinish or just worn off.
>the
> > >stickers may be valid , or they may be just soemthing someone stuck on
> > >there?? but since it came from your relatives estate chances are they
> > >probably are legitimate. that cue was made between mid 70's early
> > >80's...its value is at 100% $165, 90% $130, 70% $85...this info is from
>a
> > >blue book of pool cues. the market for these cues is really not where
>it
> > >should be though. the older production cues like this are mainly in the
> > >higher end cues with alot of inlays and points. i have a few of these
> > >similar cues myself and some higher ends also. your best bet is
>probably
> >to
> > >either put it in a safe place and keep it for some years for collector
> > >value. in about 15-20 years this cue will be worth alot more. i will
>say
> >in
> > >lets say 20 years the cue will be worth around $400-500..this is just
>my
> > >best estimate if the market stays about where its at by then.
> > > as i said i have soem of the same and that what i did with them...to
> >sell
> > >them right now you MIGHT be able to get $70-100 for it. if it were me i
> > >wouldnt play with it, but then again i have plenty of cues to use. i
> >would
> > >consider putting it away for the future and just buying a nice cue to
>use
> > >myself if i were you. i hope thsi helps, if i can hel;p you in anyway
> >just
> > >elt me know. i do sell cues on consignment and also do repairs and sell
> >all
> > >custom and production cues and cases. i have also started making custom
> > >cues. i have actually been making them for awhile but had to get the
> > >quality that i wanted before i started selling any. let me know if i
>can
> > >help you in ANY way. thanks
> > >
> > >Mark wrote:I recently came into possesion of an
> > >olod cue from my late Great Uncles estate.
> > >I plan on keeping it, but I found, through Proficient Billiard web
>site,
> > >that you are knowledgable in older cues and thought you might be able
>to
> > >help me.
> > >
> > >The cue is an old Adam, model A/H-2 in 19 ounces.
> > >It doesn't have the usual Adam logo in the butt cap, but instead, it
>has
> > >stickers on the butt with the logo on onje sticker, the weight on
>another
> > >and the model on yet another.
> > >
> > >Someone told me this is one of the first models Adam made after formig
>a
> > >partnership with Rich Helmstetter back in 1968, hence the model number
> >A/H.
> > >Is that the case?
> > >
> > >Is this cue collectible?
> > >If so, I won't play with it.
> > >
> > >I'm also attaching a few photos.
> > >
