Jay Flowers 1x2 Cue Case

howardthedick

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I just acquired this Beauty. It's in great original condition. The only flaw I can find is the latch on one side has broken, someone put rivets in to hold it. I was wondering if I should take the rivets out and repair the latch, or just leave it the way it is. I'm leaning towards leaving it. The pool league emblem is tooled in and I believe to be original to the case. Check it out. Thank you!
 

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Flowers Case

I would say this is a very rare and early Flowers since Nora hand signed her mark. It could very well be one of the first Flowers cases ever made. Its too bad that the latch was not properly repaired. The vine and flower tooling is unusual and one that I have never seen before.

A rare one indeed I would say.
 
Beautiful case Howie!

I'm sure this case will go into your private collection...never to be seen again.:grin::rolleyes:
 
Really nice to see another real Jay Flowers case. I remember walking into pool rooms whether you said you had a Jay, a Flowers, or a Jay Flowers people knew what you had.

I guess the name JEF Cue case never rolled off the tongue.

JV
 
Really nice to see another real Jay Flowers case. I remember walking into pool rooms whether you said you had a Jay, a Flowers, or a Jay Flowers people knew what you had.

I guess the name JEF Cue case never rolled off the tongue.

JV


No it didn't. I only ever knew them as "Flowers" cases much later. For some reason when I lived in South Florida and played in all the pool rooms none of the players I can remember had one either. No one in Oklahoma had one either. Ironically the first time I ever saw a Jay Flowers case was in Germany after I sent my friend to Florida to spend three weeks playing on the Florida Tour. He came back as a Jay Flowers dealer.

I got teased when I was in South Florida for being the first guy in the pool room with a Porper Case. My girlfriend had bought me a Grey Porper 3x6, the square one. I had the "fanciest" case I knew of at the time.

Smorg mentioned that at one time even people in Baker's Billiards didn't know about Jay Flowers cases. And that's where Jay hung out. So I missed that whole era you describe where people walked in with a tooled leather case and people "knew" it was a Flowers. In all my travels I have never seen that many around. Just like I have not seen a lot of Justis cases in any one place either.

I don't know, other than getting teased about my "golf bag" when I walked to the Miscue Lounge with my grey Porper I can't really remember there being a lot of conversation about what type of case people had. I guess there must have been some around but back then I wasn't paying attention to what cues and cases people were using. Except for Adam Schick's Joss and someone else's Schon I tried. I clearly remember those two cues and falling in love with both of them.

Hell I didn't even know Whitten was in Florida until after I moved to Germany. I never saw a Whitten that I can remember until I moved to Germany. I never saw a single Justis in Germany and I think he started about the time I went into the Air Force.

But no, JEF or "JF" as Will thinks Jay meant it never caught on. They have always been referred to as Flowers or Jay Flowers whenever I heard them mentioned.

Too bad Nora Van Horn wasn't identified earlier for her contributions. It is such an interesting story that she did all the work on the cases. I am really glad that Chris Tate was able to get with Nora's son and grandson to get their side of the story.

And I find it fascinating that all these great cases with unusual designs keep popping up. Shows that Nora had quite a bit of diversity and whimsy in her tooling.

Great find as usual Greg. I think I would leave the case as is. You can't make it original at this point and nothing you do to it is going to make it unmodified and worth more.
 
No it didn't. I only ever knew them as "Flowers" cases much later. For some reason when I lived in South Florida and played in all the pool rooms none of the players I can remember had one either. No one in Oklahoma had one either. Ironically the first time I ever saw a Jay Flowers case was in Germany after I sent my friend to Florida to spend three weeks playing on the Florida Tour. He came back as a Jay Flowers dealer.

I got teased when I was in South Florida for being the first guy in the pool room with a Porper Case. My girlfriend had bought me a Grey Porper 3x6, the square one. I had the "fanciest" case I knew of at the time.

Smorg mentioned that at one time even people in Baker's Billiards didn't know about Jay Flowers cases. And that's where Jay hung out. So I missed that whole era you describe where people walked in with a tooled leather case and people "knew" it was a Flowers. In all my travels I have never seen that many around. Just like I have not seen a lot of Justis cases in any one place either.

I don't know, other than getting teased about my "golf bag" when I walked to the Miscue Lounge with my grey Porper I can't really remember there being a lot of conversation about what type of case people had. I guess there must have been some around but back then I wasn't paying attention to what cues and cases people were using. Except for Adam Schick's Joss and someone else's Schon I tried. I clearly remember those two cues and falling in love with both of them.

Hell I didn't even know Whitten was in Florida until after I moved to Germany. I never saw a Whitten that I can remember until I moved to Germany. I never saw a single Justis in Germany and I think he started about the time I went into the Air Force.

But no, JEF or "JF" as Will thinks Jay meant it never caught on. They have always been referred to as Flowers or Jay Flowers whenever I heard them mentioned.

Too bad Nora Van Horn wasn't identified earlier for her contributions. It is such an interesting story that she did all the work on the cases. I am really glad that Chris Tate was able to get with Nora's son and grandson to get their side of the story.

And I find it fascinating that all these great cases with unusual designs keep popping up. Shows that Nora had quite a bit of diversity and whimsy in her tooling.

Great find as usual Greg. I think I would leave the case as is. You can't make it original at this point and nothing you do to it is going to make it unmodified and worth more.

They must have been to expensive for people where you hung out. I know at least 6 or 8 people that had them in a 50 mile radius of the city (NYC) in the early 90's. They were called Flowers and that is that. When Howard posted he had a Jay Flowers I knew what he had.

JV
 
They must have been to expensive for people where you hung out. I know at least 6 or 8 people that had them in a 50 mile radius of the city (NYC) in the early 90's. They were called Flowers and that is that. When Howard posted he had a Jay Flowers I knew what he had.

JV

Oh I totally believe you. Up where you are people are much more wealthy and sophisticated than the people in Florida and Oklahoma where I grew up playing pool. I was just commenting that in the places where I played, even though they gambled for hundreds and thousands of dollars people weren't walking around with leather cases that everyone recognized as "Flowers".

You must have been pretty active around the NYC/NJ area in the early 90s. How many pool rooms were there then and how many players? Dozens? Hundreds? Thousands?

6-8 cases in the early 90s among thousands of players and everyone was in the know and in awe when one of the 8 players walked in with a "Flowers" in the NYC/NJ area. That must have been a really big deal for you to see that. Did you own one yourself? I bet you felt awesome when you walked in the poolroom with yours if you had one.

I did. Nothing made me feel more like a "player" than to walk in the poolroom with my Jay Flowers case. Of course in Germany at the time no one would run over to me and give me praise or bow down in front of me for having one. Except in a few pool rooms where my friend had already sold some of them. He wasn't advertising them so outside of his circle they weren't well known and I don't know that he ever ended up selling more than 20, probably not more than 50 for all of Germany.

There is another member on here Dave, who is from Switzerland and can tell you more about what it was like being a Flowers dealer as he was one in the early 90s as well.

I bet he saw a lot of interesting cases during the time he sold them.
 
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