Jay.......in ACTION

jay helfert said:
So I actually did get in action in Vegas. I heard there was a big game at the Cue Club on Sunday. Gus from Phoenix was playing Freddie Boggs three thousand worth of One Hole. They were playing seven ahead and it was in it's second day.

So I cruised down there to scope it out, being the pool degenerate that I am. I ran into the whole Vegas crowd sweating the game. Walter Glass, Jim Lewis, Mailman Gabe and several others, including big Henry the owner of the Cue Club. Henry is originally from Canada and is a straight shooting snooker player. He and I used to play at Yankee Doodles in Long Beach, until I gave him the "cure". :)

So I'm sweating the game and Curtis, a pretty fair player from Sacramento, asks me to play. He asks me to give him 9-7 in One Pocket or 8-7 in Banks. Hello! I explained to him I don't give spots, I either play even or not at all. I don't even like to get spots. If I think a guy is a better player, I'll just leave him alone. I don't woof at Walter Glass for just that reason.

I told Curtis I was hungry and was going to eat anyway. I tried to get into the Thai food place next door but it was a 40 minute wait. So I walked a little farther to the Mexican food restaurant. I had to fade non stop mariachi music, but they gave me a burrito as big as my arm, and I washed it down with horchata, my favorite drink.

Now I strolled back into the Cue Club all fat and sassy. And stuffed! Curtis jumped right on me, smart kid. It's never good to play right after a big meal. But when he asked me to play Banks even, I couldn't refuse. We played on the second table in the "pit", a super tight Gold Crown with trick rails. Toby had it specially set up for him, and he tortured a million road men on it.

He wanted to play full rack banks, not my favorite, but why not. When he broke safe the first game, I knew I was in for a long night. I told him I can play "One Pocket" Banks too. He won the first two games for 50 a pop and then we traded games for a while. I felt like if I could get zeroed in on the table I could beat him. His style was make one and play safe. My style is to try to hit you with a four or five pack. All that safety play won't do you any good if your opponent is running four or five banks at a time. Except I wasn't running any banks, just one or two at a time.

Finally I began to find the range, and ran some threes and fours. That was it! I won two straight games and got even. We had played for four hours, and I wasn't unhappy about quitting even. I'm such a pansy anymore. I was worn out!

About that time who other than Archie the Greek shows up. After complimenting me up and down, he asked me to stake him in a 20-40 No Limit game, telling me he was the nuts. What else? Now this is a game that takes a bankroll to play, maybe ten grand to do it justice. I looked at Archie and showed him the 800 I had in my pocket. I said Archie what do you think you can do with this. He just laughed.

Archie had to tell all gathered about how he hustled me in L.A. a few years before. I had him stuck a few thousand playing One Pocket and he got me to give him 5-3 and the breaks. I was betting 500 a game and he had another 500 a game on the side. He beat me six in a row before I pulled up. He beat the side, but only got even with me.

Now Curtis pipes up, do I want to give Archie that game again? I said no, but I will play you some more banks for a 100 a game. That game will have to wait for later. I won't be back to Vegas until May.

P.S. Gus finally beat Freddie after a 20 hour marathon.

Hey Jay...you write very well. You ought to consider writing a book someday!
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av84fun said:
Hey Jay...you write very well. You ought to consider writing a book someday!
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Are u going to be in Sandiego( Viejos Casino) for WPBA event next month?
 
jay helfert said:
Now Curtis pipes up, do I want to give Archie that game again? I said no, but I will play you some more banks for a 100 a game. That game will have to wait for later. I won't be back to Vegas until May.
Curtis said that you're a good player, but you didn't ask him to play for 100/game when you were there.

Next time you're at the Cue Club, he will play you some 100/game full rack banks. If you need his # send me a PM.

Also, he lives in Vegas, not Sacramento.
 
mnb said:
Curtis said that you're a good player, but you didn't ask him to play for 100/game when you were there.

Next time you're at the Cue Club, he will play you some 100/game full rack banks. If you need his # send me a PM.

Also, he lives in Vegas, not Sacramento.

I'll be there in May. We've got a date. I was told he was from Sacramento, and moved to Vegas.

Does he remember asking me for a spot? When I was leaving I told him I'm not done with him and can bet higher if he wants to. A 100 a game is cool with me.
 
jay helfert said:
I'll be there in May. We've got a date. I was told he was from Sacramento, and moved to Vegas.

Does he remember asking me for a spot? When I was leaving I told him I'm not done with him and can bet higher if he wants to. A 100 a game is cool with me.

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!JoeyA
 
vagabond said:
jay helfert said:
So I actually did get in action in Vegas. I

So I'm sweating the game and Curtis, a pretty fair player from Sacramento, asks me to play. He asks me to give him 9-7 in One Pocket or

P.S. Gus finally beat Freddie after a 20 hour marathon.[/QUOTE


Don`t expect me to call you when I come to LA.You have my telephone number and did not give me a call.
On sunday around 5 pm I felt very sleepy from Freddy`s slow play and left the place to go home.when I was leaving I found three other rail birds were actually snoring.Freddie was taking 2minutes for each shot.
Gus is like a side kick to scott Frost.Our AZ poster from phoenix roasted Gus in a big 9 ball match more than 10 years ago in clicks billiards,Tucson.
By the way curtis was the one who backed Bustamonti in that historical match with Johny archer in early 90s in Toledo,Ohio.:cool:


Was Curtis from Chicago?
 
JoeyA said:
Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!JoeyA

I live in Los Angeles, where there are many nice poolrooms. Come anytime, one set of One Pocket and one set of Banks. You may pick the bet. I'll wait by the phone for your call.

You want me so bad, come and get me. Take your next vacation in sunny Socal, and I might even pay for it....if you can beat me! :D
 
huckster said:
vagabond said:
Was Curtis from Chicago?

I don't know. He's a black man in his 30's, about 5'8" or 9". Pretty much a gentleman to gamble with, only made one small move on me. :)

Like I said, I heard he was originally from Sacramento. All I know for sure is that he's in Vegas now, waiting for me. :cool: And that's the way I like it.
 
jay helfert said:
huckster said:
I don't know. He's a black man in his 30's, about 5'8" or 9". Pretty much a gentleman to gamble with, only made one small move on me. :)

Like I said, I heard he was originally from Sacramento. All I know for sure is that he's in Vegas now, waiting for me. :cool: And that's the way I like it.

Yeah that's the guy he used to back Busta whenever he was in the midwest
 
Franky said:
I've had some back issues as well including pain so severe that the doctor wanted to give me morphine after the Demerol cocktail had no effect. I second James' opinion on weight loss. Being thin with moderate core muscle tone will greatly reduce the everyday stresses on your back. Think about it in terms of removing a 20-50 pound vest and it starts to make a lot of sense. Its not hard to lose 1-2 pounds per week IMHO.

I personally have had far fewer problems with my back when I've been thin.


i have been 260 with abs very low body fat and had no back problems. 240 soft and no problems i'm 235 now and a mess, I have been real hard at 215 and couldnt move, i carry alot of muscle from 13 years of hardcore bodybuilding, its impossible for me to get below 225 now, but my point is my pain has never been related to my weight, now I have had knee pain when I was over 255 and I could feel my heart working harder than normal. Right now I barely eat and cant exercise much, yesterday i didnt get out of bed I have been in bed for the past 40 hours, today i feel better and will walk, or play till the pain stops me. its easy for me to diet down i have done it many times bodybuilding, right now I cant because of physical limitations.
 
Curtis is neither from sacramento
nor from Chicago or LasVegas.
He either lived in or visited those
places. He is actually from outer
space and I can tell from his
hair style
 
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Rick S. said:
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Jay....playing in the Alexander's Dust Off tourny a couple weeks ago.

It ALMOST looks like he can play.

Rick S.
I agree, I think Jay has held a cue a few times in the past. Great picture!

James
 
SCCues said:
I agree, I think Jay has held a cue a few times in the past. Great picture!

James

Don't let that picture fool you. I just talk a good game. I'm a D player! :cool:
 
jay helfert said:
I live in Los Angeles, where there are many nice poolrooms. Come anytime, one set of One Pocket and one set of Banks. You may pick the bet. I'll wait by the phone for your call.

You want me so bad, come and get me. Take your next vacation in sunny Socal, and I might even pay for it....if you can beat me! :D

I was getting tired last night and had to get to sleep and was just saying good night. Don't read so much into my posts Jay.:)

I haven't been to California since I was in the Marines and that's been a while but you never know. Thanks for the invite.

But I did like the way you slid from playing one pocket into playing one pocket AND BANKS. :p You funny man. You cunning man. :D

Before, it was one pocket for whatever I wanted to play for. Now you want to change the parameters? :confused:
JoeyA
 
JoeyA said:
I was getting tired last night and had to get to sleep and was just saying good night. Don't read so much into my posts Jay.:)

I haven't been to California since I was in the Marines and that's been a while but you never know. Thanks for the invite.

But I did like the way you slid from playing one pocket into playing one pocket AND BANKS. :p You funny man. You cunning man. :D

Before, it was one pocket for whatever I wanted to play for. Now you want to change the parameters? :confused:
JoeyA

Now now Joey, you were the one who suggested One Pocket and Banks! You even made the game at DCC, 200 a set. Did you forget our conversation? I figured you would back off this game at some point in time. It just took a while.

I have been talking about playing one set of each ever since. We even talked with the TAR boys about playing two sets in Olathe. All of a sudden you don't like that game any more. OH WELL! Don't worry, I've been down this road before. You have the right to change your mind. We never posted anything.

I probably can't beat you at anything. I can't make three balls in a row anymore. Didn't you see how bad I played at the Open? You have a lock with me and you just don't know it. I just figured I could talk you out of playing and I did. Have a nice day Joy Boy! :D
 
jay helfert said:
Now now Joey, you were the one who suggested One Pocket and Banks! You even made the game at DCC, 200 a set. Did you forget our conversation? I figured you would back off this game at some point in time. It just took a while.

I have been talking about playing one set of each ever since. We even talked with the TAR boys about playing two sets in Olathe. All of a sudden you don't like that game any more. OH WELL! Don't worry, I've been down this road before. You have the right to change your mind. We never posted anything.

I probably can't beat you at anything. I can't make three balls in a row anymore. Didn't you see how bad I played at the Open? You have a lock with me and you just don't know it. I just figured I could talk you out of playing and I did. Have a nice day Joy Boy! :D

WHAT? YOU talked me out of playing? I will follow you to the gates of hell.......... Wait a minute, I'm having second thoughts about voting for that guy but that's another subject. :o

Maybe someone remembers what was posted on AZ. You can say whatever you want about what was said at DCC. I'm not going to hold your feet to the fire either because I try to be a fair and nice guy.

I'm just saying that I chased you for EIGHT DAYS at the DCC and your feet moved so fast I could not keep up with THE GINGERBREAD MAN. :)

With your new pool table at home, I know I have my work cut out for me but that's OK. You did need a little help. :p
JoeyA
 
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