Jean Balukas
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20 guys, $500 each = $10K
I happen to know that $500 wouldn't be anything to, Vagabond. The man has $$$. How about recruiting 19 other guys to put $500 in and play the, Red Riffle, a set? A or K. You pick-um. I respect, Jean, too much to include her.
I happen to know that $500 wouldn't be anything to, Vagabond. The man has $$$. How about recruiting 19 other guys to put $500 in and play the, Red Riffle, a set? A or K. You pick-um. I respect, Jean, too much to include her.
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Jack Flanagan said:that BD article states Dec 2003 ???
Jerry Orbach is dead and when is Jean stepping up ?
sorry, my dumb self didn't look at the post date,,,post was 2003 also,,,somebody dug up an old one,,,
vagabond said:
i think hemi has the nuts on this one...........
VAP
sjm said:
since someone mentioned something about breaking in this thread.....................
MISTER BREEDLOVE is probably the BEST breaker i've EVER seen...........although i'm young and haven't seen them all...............but DAMN...............
does anyone have his contact info? i'd just like to spend a day with him just on breaking alone......
VAP
dogginda9 said:
Hey, Vagabond, sounds like I got some folks wanting to put in with me and Jamie. I thought the $10K was a bit more than you were use to betting so that's the only reason I suggested pooling money with others. Yea, I think I can get, Humphrey, to put in with me to stake, Jamie. If A or K can beat, Jamie, they can win much more that $10K. I guarantee you if we lose the first set we will play another. You guys that believe in A & K can all get your teeth fixed if she can beat the, Red Rifle. $500, 20 of ya. Hey, take a shot at some serious $$$.
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jayz said:
No disrespect meant to Jean, but the bar has been raised since she played. Even on the men's tour, but much more so with the ladies. I watched Jean play many times when she was in her prime. She was as dominating as Allison and Karen have been. And yes I watched her play in open events where she beat men pro's. Watched her beat the Miz at the infamous "Tamoshanter" tournament! Of course it was approaching 100 degrees in the tournament room and Jean was in great shape, where the Miz was at the other end of the scale! No pun intended
Jeannie did have a powerful stroke, and used it a lot! She also made more of the difficult shots than the ladies of today, but that isn't because she played better, she got out of line more often! She left herself in tougher spots and by doing so looked impressive when she got out of a jam! Allison plays such perfect position and has such a controlled game that she doesn't look like she's doing anything spectacular!
Jean was the greatest woman player of her time but I don't think she'd like her end of it with either Allison, Karen or even Jeannette nowadays! Jeannette's game has stepped up a knotch or two IMHO.
Sherm
cuesmith said:
Well, I'm a huge Jeanette fan, so it's very painful for me to disagree. Still, objectively speaking, it would be fair to say that before she gave up pro pool, Jean was able to dominate both Loree Jon Jones and Robin Bell (later known as Robin Dodson) in their respective primes. In the mid 90's, Jeanette won her share over those two, who were still playing their best pool then, but certainly wasn't able to dominate them. In terms of titles and overall track record, Jeanette's career has been, more or less, on a par with Jones and Bell, two very deserving Hall of famers who simply aren't mentionable in the same breath as Balukas.
As for Allison and Karen, the case is much stronger. My best guess is that Allison plays nineball a little better than Jean did, and that Jean played nineball roughly as well as Karen does now. Hey, we'll never know.
sjm said:
I saw Mr. Breedlove shooting his one-handed jumps and wing shots a couple of weeks ago. Very impressive indeed! I do have to say, however, I made a pretty sporty one-handed shot as well...lol. However, I couldn't duplicate it, but I got it on the first try and that's what counts!
Here's the shot, one handed on one leg...lol:
vapoolplayer said:
While at the Mini Black Widow Experience I saw George break, I believe, 37 mph, pretty darn impressive if you ask me. I topped out at 21 mph
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Rackin_Zack said:While at the Mini Black Widow Experience I saw George break, I believe, 37 mph, pretty darn impressive if you ask me. I topped out at 21 mph
Yeah, George just crushes those balls. The guy today who has that kind of break is Charlie "Hillbilly" Bryant.
FYI, one time at Valley Forge I went on the radar gun at one of the exhibits. I hit three breaks, all of them between 22 and 24 mph. Next up was Tiffany Nelson. Have to admit I was humbled when she registered 24.8, but she does break those balls well.
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sjm said:
I know what you mean. I think Jeannette, Helena and Monica all broke faster than I did. I know proudly tell people I break like a girl...lol.
I never saw Balukas play in person, but I have a video of her playing Ewa Mataya in one of the finals where Balukas is on her 18 tournament run winning streak (or however long it was). I know Balukas was a great player, but I don't think she was better than Allison Fisher, or maybe Karen Corr at her best. In the tape I have Balukas does not play that well, losing the first set but winning the second to win the tournament. I've seen Allison play a lot, and I've never seen her play as poorly in a finals match, or any match for that matter, as Balukas does on that tape. I also think that the competition today among the women is 1,000 times better than it was then. Allison can play perfect and perfectly controlled pool for long stretches. I know Jean Balukas was a great player, she is practically a living legend, but all things considered my vote has to go to Allison.
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