Jeanette Lee in Fox Sports List

JoeyInCali said:
She is called the Black Widow after all.
Why is Mike Tyson number one?
He's a bum now. Has been for the last 5 years really.

I assume, and hope they were referring to Mike Tyson when he was eighteen years old and the youngest heavyweight champion in history. Right now, I don't think Mike Tyson could scare any other professional boxer in the world...unless he threatened to bite their ear off :D
 
Williebetmore said:
As I said, its all just semantics. I'm talking numbers of people fearing, you are talking about intensity of fear - in my view both of us are correct.

It's really more than semantics. Your reasoning lacks legitimacy.

Let's take your numbers: 1 million people "fearing" Jeanette Lee on the pool table. The same million people, if they follow pool as we do, will fear Allison Fisher more (I don't think that is under contention). Their fear of JL is inordinate, based on perception rather than any real information.

You can probably defend this statement with the same logic: "Anna Kornakova is the most feared tennis player alive." She is most recognized, and if people are misinformed of her abilities their opinions are pretty much moot.

Imho, of course.

-Roger
 
buddha162 said:
Their fear of JL is inordinate, based on perception rather than any real information.


-Roger

Buddha-man,
Exactly, as is the case with the rest of this stupid list devised by FoxSports.
 
Kournikova is out, Sharapova is the new hotness ;)

I agree that even though she is a superb and successful player, JL is not the most feared. Not sure what their motivation was for listing her there. Must have been the name recognition...
 
Williebetmore said:
JSP,
Easily. My reasoning was based on that survey that showed some fair number of Americans recognized JL (???40%??? - I don't remember exactly), the next best pool player was under 1% (that percentage I remember).

Therefore, if 1% of the 100,000 pool fanatics like us (who are aware that she exists) are afraid to match up evenly with Allison Fisher; then 1,000 of us fear her. If 1% of the 100 million people who recognize JL (was it 40% of americans polled who recognized her in that survey????) are afraid to lay money on the line to gamble with JL, then 1 million people fear her. As I said, its all just semantics. I'm talking numbers of people fearing, you are talking about intensity of fear - in my view both of us are correct.

P.S. - On a "good back day" for JL she is very capable of top flight 9-ball, perhaps you have seen the two matches in the past 2 years where she beats Allison 7-0. In one of them Allison comes to the table only 3 times, scratches 3 times, and does not pocket a single ball - definitely one of my favorite matches ever (though Allison is also one of my many favorite players).
Two different ways to measure fear:

Aggregate Fear of a Person = (#People who know the person) * (Fraction of those who know the person that fear that person) * (Intensity of that fear)

So JL could easily be the most widely feared, because so many know of her (the first term is very large for her).

Other players likely rate higher than JL on the second two factors (fraction who fear and intensity of that fear), but instill less total fear due to less notoriety. They're less widely feared, but more deeply feared. So everybody's right, depending on what you mean by "most feared."
 
Cory in DC said:
Two different ways to measure fear:

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Cory,
Excellent elucidation. Thats what I was trying to say, your description is better.

Welcome to the noble ranks of eloquent, analytical obfuscators (though, in the immortal words of a certain politician we should "eschew obfuscation" - 10 points to anyone identifying this person). Now we just need to find out how all those athletes made it into the Top 50 Intelligent Women (wasn't Allison like 46th).
 
about #2 on the list - it is totally incorrect. i used to be invovled pretty heavily in the elite leagues of online fps games, and he's laughed at a lot more than he's feared. (no one doubts his skill though).
 
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