Jerico Stinger - How good is it really?

Snapshot9

Snapshot9

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Each new Break stick or Break/Jump that comes out
claims to be so much better than previous brands out.

Some, even, do not perform as well as a good
Break/Jump stick made by a good Custom Cuemaker.

I have done a lot of reading on the Jerico Stinger,
and its technology is a little different.

I have tried the Predator BK, Cuetec, and a few lessor
popular brands of Break sticks.

I have not tried the Sledgehammer or the Stinger.

They all make claims of 50-60% percent improvement,
but when you really try them, you may decide it is only
a 5-10% percent improvement.

So, I would like some experienced opinions on the Stinger
as far as breaking, and whether the jump stick portion
is really that good. My main interest really lies with
the jumpstick portion of it.

Mike Massey has one, which carries a lot of weight with me.
 
Snapshot9 said:
Each new Break stick or Break/Jump that comes out
claims to be so much better than previous brands out.

Some, even, do not perform as well as a good
Break/Jump stick made by a good Custom Cuemaker.

I have done a lot of reading on the Jerico Stinger,
and its technology is a little different.

I have tried the Predator BK, Cuetec, and a few lessor
popular brands of Break sticks.

I have not tried the Sledgehammer or the Stinger.

They all make claims of 50-60% percent improvement,
but when you really try them, you may decide it is only
a 5-10% percent improvement.

So, I would like some experienced opinions on the Stinger
as far as breaking, and whether the jump stick portion
is really that good. My main interest really lies with
the jumpstick portion of it.

Mike Massey has one, which carries a lot of weight with me.
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Hey Scott...to me...and this is strictly to me...the Stinger is all hype at this point. I really don't see it as any better than a Sledgehammer, other than you do gain some control with it having a leather tip. I think they keep giving them to the pros to get their name out there...which is good, but given a choice I think we will see the pros go back to their old break cues. The cues are too think in the shaft and too hard of a tip IMO.

My buddy and I did a few breaks with a Stinger, a Sledge II, and a Gilbert jump/break. Of the three...my buddy could break best with the Sledge II.

We really did not test the jumping capabilities, but I suspect the Stinger may be better in that department. As a player, hands down the Gilbert is a all around better cue.

And by the way, I loved the Mike Massey Cuetec j/b. I had one and it was stolen from my house, and bought another which never hit the same again.

Shorty
 
Snapshot9 said:
Each new Break stick or Break/Jump that comes out
claims to be so much better than previous brands out.

Some, even, do not perform as well as a good
Break/Jump stick made by a good Custom Cuemaker.

I have done a lot of reading on the Jerico Stinger,
and its technology is a little different.

I have tried the Predator BK, Cuetec, and a few lessor
popular brands of Break sticks.

I have not tried the Sledgehammer or the Stinger.

They all make claims of 50-60% percent improvement,
but when you really try them, you may decide it is only
a 5-10% percent improvement.

So, I would like some experienced opinions on the Stinger
as far as breaking, and whether the jump stick portion
is really that good. My main interest really lies with
the jumpstick portion of it.

Mike Massey has one, which carries a lot of weight with me.
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The Stinger's specialty is jumping. You should really try it. As a full-cue, it jumps better than most short cues. As a short cue, it jumps better than anything I've seen.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
The Stinger's specialty is jumping. You should really try it. As a full-cue, it jumps better than most short cues. As a short cue, it jumps better than anything I've seen.
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tip tip .jude did u get one yet .my birthday comin up soon .can u send me one ..????
 
Scott, I've owned and tried over period of time about every J/B cue out there... not all of them, but all of the popular ones. I finally settled on a Jerico Stinger. It makes accurate jumping simple. Like Jude said, that's what it was designed to do. I had a Sledgehammer for a few months and it did a very good job, but once I got the Stinger in my hands, there was no comparason. The Stinger is worlds beyond the Sledgehammer, both in usability and quality of workmanship.

As for breaking, well, Shorty and I had different experiences with it. (All due respect, Shorty, just our styles are probably different and the Stinger works best for mine). My biggest problem with it was slowing down my break. When I first got it, I broke at the same speed as I did with the Sledgehammer and that was just too much. I'm breaking now about half the speed that I did with the Sledgehammer and getting about the same results. The transfer of energy on this cue is phenominal compared to any other I've tried. This makes it possible to obtain like cue ball speed with less effort... very important for broke down old guys like me! :)

Now, why is that important? Well, less cue speed, of course it's going to be easier to control my stroke, which makes it easier to control the cue ball. So I get the same spread I did from hammering the hell out of the rack with a Sledgehammer, but I can stick the cue ball center table a LOT easier.

Later,
Bob
 
Even though I have not tried the Sledgehammer II I use to own a Sledge I, then was introduced to the Stinger. I'm no top pro or anything so i had to purchase mine, I do however have a pretty big break imediatly i could see the difference in control. Since I am always hooking myself the cue as a jump cue is great! Used as a full cue I was jumping full balls drawing the CB back with ease. The cue broken down can jump in the tightest of spots. IMPO The Stinger does live up to all the hype. I have not yet got to break with a Gilbert though.

I also don't remember who mention it but the Stinger is made by a custom Cuemaker.
 
poolbiz420 said:
I also don't remember who mention it but the Stinger is made by a custom Cuemaker.
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Yes, it is. Jerry Powers of Clyde, TX makes the Stinger. Jerico Cues is a small one man shop.

BTW, I paid for mine, too. Was a bit hesitant at the price at first, but once I tried one, I threw down the bucks in a heartbeat.

Later,
Bob
 
I've tried the pred bk and sledge. I didn't feel there was any difference between the pred bk and my pred sneaky. Not impressed by it, although it does make a damn good playing cue.

In trying my friend's sledgehammer a couple racks, I felt I might have been breaking a *little* bit harder...as in 1-2mph (I break around 23-25mph with my pred). cb control was fine. As far as jumping, it works fine. I didn't try any really ridiculous jumps. I wasn't very impressed by it.

all in all, I decided that the breakers I tried offered marginal benefits, if any, and weren't worth the money. hope that helps
 
Well, some of the hype is true... The stinger is a KICK-A@$ break cue... it breaks like a train wreck, and is fairly predictable. The flat tip helps retain some of the control lost by the fact that you are striking two pieces of EXTREMELY hard plastic (resin really) together. The jump portion of it, I could care less for. It's OK for long jumps, but I really like my Jacoby better.

I think the Jacoby is the absolute best jumper on the market. They were the only ones to build this tool right. Built well to serve ONE purpose. (With that being said, I've NEVER found a perfect jump/break combo). Super light... lots of weight up front. For a regular cue, the extra weight up front is NO GOOD. With the extra weight comes extra squirt. For a jumper... this is ideal.

I hope that this helps... if you have any further questions, feel free to PM me. I've tried many of the jump/break, jump and break cues respectively.
 
How does it break in comparison with the Mezz Power Break or Power Break II as well as compared to the Predator BK?

LWW
 
vapoolplayer said:
i really liked the stinger for jumping with a full cue. as far as broken down, it didn't show me anything that my jacoby can't do. but with a full cue, its the nuts.

breaking wise........eh......i could take it or leave it.

i will say that i HATE HATE HATE the perfectly flat tip. i used a friend of mine's, and if i owned one personally, i'd be tempted to shape it just a little.

VAP
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Actually, it's not perfectly flat. It's concave. I assume that the reason he did this was to "funnel" the energy down the center of the shaft and to give less error when you don't hit center ball.
 
cheese_ball said:
Well, some of the hype is true... The stinger is a KICK-A@$ break cue... it breaks like a train wreck, and is fairly predictable. The
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this is what I don't get...people say these breakers are amazing and I just don't think it really does much for me. how many mph do you think you gain in going from a normal cue to the stinger?
 
Egg McDogit said:
this is what I don't get...people say these breakers are amazing and I just don't think it really does much for me. how many mph do you think you gain in going from a normal cue to the stinger?
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Actually with the Stinger I break at about 1/2 to 2/3 my usual speed and get better breaks with much more control.
 
Raodwarior said:
Actually with the Stinger I break at about 1/2 to 2/3 my usual speed and get better breaks with much more control.
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if I wanted to break 1/2 -2/3 speed, then why get a phenolic tipped breaker? I can just do that with my playing cue and stick the cb just as easily..
 
Egg McDogit said:
this is what I don't get...people say these breakers are amazing and I just don't think it really does much for me. how many mph do you think you gain in going from a normal cue to the stinger?
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EM, Gain in speed is not what I was looking for. What I was looking for and the reason I ultimately ended up with the Stinger, is same speed, less effort, more control. The transfer of energy on the Stinger is so efficient that you can get the same "speed" break with much less cue speed (stroke speed). Less cues speed = more control. I can break in balls on a fairly high percentage, but when I'm hitting as hard as I feasably can, then I lose the cue ball. With this cue, I can ease off of my stroke speed, break the same speed as I could breaking "hard", make balls and stick the cue ball in the center box almost every time (almost... nobody's perfect and I'm sure not!)

If someone is looking for speed all they have to do is practice hitting the ball with all they have until they get the speed. If you're looking to control the cue ball better, well, that's an entirely different thing. If I could make 4 or 5 balls on every break because I was breaking like a freight train, I'd still be in trouble if I didn't know where the CB was going. I'd rather make 1 or 2 balls, spread the rest of them out nicely and have the CB in the middle of the table every time. If I can do that, I'm gonna get out a lot more than if I hammered it and left the CB God knows where.

JMO,
Bob
 
Egg McDogit said:
if I wanted to break 1/2 -2/3 speed, then why get a phenolic tipped breaker? I can just do that with my playing cue and stick the cb just as easily..
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Because at half speed I get the same action as a full speed break with any other cue. Added to the fact that it is a great jump cue.
 
don't understand how you guys are getting as much power breaking half speed...when I tried out the sledgehammer, it didn't really increase my break speed.
 
the why ..

Egg McDogit said:
don't understand how you guys are getting as much power breaking half speed...when I tried out the sledgehammer, it didn't really increase my break speed.
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because speed does not mean power. Power also means
accuracy. Break with less speed, but more power because
you are more accurate with the cueball, and much less likely
to miscue.

Haven't you ever played a girl, and you were breaking hard
as you could and could not make a ball, and the girl gets
up there and breaks and 3 balls go in (in 9 ball more than
8 ball).

Haven't you ever heard the saying,
'That 1 well placed shot in worth more than 100 misplaced ones'.
 
You're definitely right about hitting the cueball and rack square. But how does a sledgehammer/stinger help you do that? It doesn't. If it hit noticibly harder, then you could say that you could be more accurate since you don't have to stroke as hard. The thing is, I don't think it hits much harder.


Snapshot9 said:
because speed does not mean power. Power also means
accuracy. Break with less speed, but more power because
you are more accurate with the cueball, and much less likely
to miscue.

Haven't you ever played a girl, and you were breaking hard
as you could and could not make a ball, and the girl gets
up there and breaks and 3 balls go in (in 9 ball more than
8 ball).

Haven't you ever heard the saying,
'That 1 well placed shot in worth more than 100 misplaced ones'.
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