Jerry Rauenzahn

shoutout33

"The Emperor"
Silver Member
Has anyone had or tried his cues? He looks like he has a nice product and I notice the he has very sharp points! His inlays look CNC, but he said that his pantograph can act as a CNC. If I heard him correctly. Thanks for the help in advance.
 
shoutout33 said:
Has anyone had or tried his cues? He looks like he has a nice product and I notice the he has very sharp points! His inlays look CNC, but he said that his pantograph can act as a CNC. If I heard him correctly. Thanks for the help in advance.

Jerry makes a great cue. I had one and it played great. He does some fantastic vaneer work. He builds a solid cue and offers some great prices. People been auctioning alot of his cues on eBay lately, and I am not sure why. The one I had played great. I only traded it to get something to sell, his cues just don't sell that well. I would recommend his cues if you can back into one cheap.

Shorty
 
shoutout33 said:
Has anyone had or tried his cues? He looks like he has a nice product and I notice the he has very sharp points! His inlays look CNC, but he said that his pantograph can act as a CNC. If I heard him correctly. Thanks for the help in advance.

Jerry's cues are very nice, especially for the money. They play well, and the points are very sharp and even, at least on the ones I have. His ringwork is very nice...very similar to Southwest. I have a 6 point cocobola into nice birdseye (no inlays), leather wrap (very nicely done), 2 shafts, 95% condition which I would let go for around $500.

I would insert some pics if I knew how...I am new to this forum. PM or Email me (jlolley@bamacues.com) if anyone is interested.
 
duke@neo.rr.com said:
I but if I had to choose between the two, my choice would be #&$* (in the for sale section)

WOW!!! What an ad, I can't believe 6 references to you're favorite cuemaker and the guy never once asked about him. How many cues do you have to get rid of from that guy, what's your commission? I wouldn't buy a cue from him just because of your spam and unwanted advertisement. As far as I know he has about 400 cuemakers to choose from, why did you narrow it down to 2 for him?

Jim
 
JimBo said:
WOW!!! What an ad, I can't believe 6 references to you're favorite cuemaker and the guy never once asked about him. How many cues do you have to get rid of from that guy, what's your commission? I wouldn't buy a cue from him just because of your spam and unwanted advertisement. As far as I know he has about 400 cuemakers to choose from, why did you narrow it down to 2 for him?

Jim
Dam thats funny . I was wondering how long it would take Duke to spit it out about his DZ being for sale......took him awhile but he didn't let me down :D
 
I'm not trying to badmouth Jerry, just giving you my opinion and telling you the complaints I've heard about them
Yes, you badmouthed him along the way in your trying to sell your cue.
In the business word, what you did is a mortal sin.
You disparaged another product in trying to sell your product.
Disparaging usually doesn't work and it only makes the disparager look like an azz.
Now, if you said this, you might have had better luck.
"Jerry makes great cues. If you don't find one, I have DZ cue I'm selling
.
DZ's cues are on par with Jerry's. I've visted both of their shops and seen their work."
 
I remember seeing a post that said someone wouldn't buy DZ cues because of his feelings about this thread, but I don't see it now. Maybe I'm mistaken. Regardless, I just want to point out that Bob and his cues shouldn't be dragged into this. Bob has made three cues for me, and I can attest to his good character and the quality of his cues. I have no experience with Jerry's cues (although I've been curious), but I can say you won't go wrong with a DZ.
 
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Hey Duke

Have you ever actually owned a cue long enough to tell how it hit? I mean seriously...six months, a year? Really given a cue the benefit of the doubt? I mean some new cues settle after they are made and turn out pretty darn nice. You can even adjust the weight on many cues if you are not happy with the balance and pretty much get anything to 19 ounces. You really need to give yourself time to adjust to a cue...I would like to really encourage you to stick to one cue for just 2 months...play with it everyday...and watch what happens. At some point in time you are going to have to realize, it ain't the cue.

Shorty
 
duh!

Shorty said:
Have you ever actually owned a cue long enough to tell how it hit? I mean seriously...six months, a year? Really given a cue the benefit of the doubt? I mean some new cues settle after they are made and turn out pretty darn nice. You can even adjust the weight on many cues if you are not happy with the balance and pretty much get anything to 19 ounces. You really need to give yourself time to adjust to a cue...I would like to really encourage you to stick to one cue for just 2 months...play with it everyday...and watch what happens. At some point in time you are going to have to realize, it ain't the cue.

Shorty
balance is more than a weight bolt Shorty, or didn't you know that? you know what....I've given alot of cues the benefit of the doubt, and owned them for a while. some of us don't have the luxury of owning a pool table and can't play every day....I'm married! I realize it ain't the cue as I can play with anything, but some do feel better than others.
 
one question.

Bamacues said:
Jerry's cues are very nice, especially for the money. They play well, and the points are very sharp and even, at least on the ones I have. His ringwork is very nice...very similar to Southwest. I have a 6 point cocobola into nice birdseye (no inlays), leather wrap (very nicely done), 2 shafts, 95% condition which I would let go for around $500.

I would insert some pics if I knew how...I am new to this forum. PM or Email me (jlolley@bamacues.com) if anyone is interested.
I have one question. if his cues are SO nice...why are you selling one?
 
duke@neo.rr.com said:
I have one question. if his cues are SO nice...why are you selling one?
I buy and sell cues....that is part of what I do. I have run a pro shop for several years now. I have a lot of cues. My player is a Southwest...I have no intention of changing that. I but cues from different cuemakers and check them out to see if I can provide assistance when asked a question by my customers. Rauenzahn cues were recommended to me by several of my associates at shows, etc, as an affordable alternative to higher end production cues. I got a couple to try out and assess. I found them to hit very well, the points are very even and sharp, the leather wrap is very nicely done...far better than a bunch of other cuemakers I have seen. The only thing that I don't like is that the butt of my Southwest is thinner. I like the thinner butt. For the money, I think the cue is very nice. That is only my opinion.......

I finally got an image to upload...I apologize for the quality, however, if you look at the pic of the joint rings, the shaft on th left is from my Southwest (has the green ring). Jerry's ringwork is very nicely done.
 
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Ok...I have one person saying the guys stuff is nice but beware and I have another guy saying they are a good buy for your money. Also, both gentleman are saying they have had other parties saying yeah and nay to them as well. Can I get a little more help here please? :(
 
shoutout33 said:
Ok...I have one person saying the guys stuff is nice but beware and I have another guy saying they are a good buy for your money. Also, both gentleman are saying they have had other parties saying yeah and nay to them as well. Can I get a little more help here please? :(

Sure. Ignore the posts that are obviously so biased that they need to interject their favorite cuemaker at all costs. The rest of the suggestions have little bias.

I have nothing else to say about the cues.

Fred
 
shoutout33 said:
Ok...I have one person saying the guys stuff is nice but beware and I have another guy saying they are a good buy for your money. Also, both gentleman are saying they have had other parties saying yeah and nay to them as well. Can I get a little more help here please? :(

The RZ cue I owned briefly had two shafts with long ferrules. It was a steel jointed cue, 5/16-14. The cue went to DaytonaJoe, but he didn't even play with it, he traded it before he received it I think. Both shafts were straight and it hit balls very firm. The cue weighed 19 ounces and had a good forward balance like most SS jointed cues tend to do. I was able to adjust to it from my Schon rather easily. I paid 600 for the cue, and I felt like it was worth the money.

That's about all the input I can give you.

Shorty
 
shoutout33 said:
Ok...I have one person saying the guys stuff is nice but beware and I have another guy saying they are a good buy for your money. Also, both gentleman are saying they have had other parties saying yeah and nay to them as well. Can I get a little more help here please? :(

I think most cuemaker's who have been around a while make a decent product. You find flaws in all cuemaker's product from time to time. After all, if they are hand crafted, something is going to go a little off every now and then. DZ cues are very nice cues...I don't have anything bad to say about them. Jery Rauenzahn cues are very nice. All cue purchases come down to personal preference, I think. I don't like whippy hitting cues and prefer a stiff hit. Another guy hates stiff hitting cues and prefers more "feel". Neither is wrong, they just have different preferences.

Take the recent influx of Phillipine cues. I know guys who bought them and absolutely love them. I have looked closely at several and found almost all of them to be flawed in my opinion. Most had bad finishs and flawed inlays. One had very nice finish work on the butt, but the shafts looked like they were finished with a brush. However, the owner of the cue was very proud of his custom cue, so why should I knock it?

BTW, Jerry Rauenzahn has been around since the 70's and has been listed in the blue book for a long time. He did not hang around or get listed for making junk.
 
duke@neo.rr.com said:
what cues? I have 1 cue I'm trying to sell and this is only because of it not having a wrap, not because of it playing bad or anything. Bob is a very nice guy and makes one heck of a product, and no, he would have nothing to do with me trying to sell one, why would he? he already got the money for it, and why would he care what I do with it? it's mine.
I modified my post to remove any ambiguity.

bamacues said:
I think most cuemaker's who have been around a while make a decent product.
That's my impression too. Some people think a maker's cues must not be very good if the maker isn't one of internationally exalted. If he doesn't have a big name, we can assume he has a strong local following. And if he can survive for thirty in such a small market, he must be doing a good job.
 
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duke@neo.rr.com said:
...but if I had to choose between the two, my choice would be a DZ. he's closer, has closer tolerances, won't warp nearly as easily, leather wraps are better, inlays are better, etc...if you'd like to try a DZ, I have one I'd sell if interested. (in the for sale section)

Keep up the good work Duke, you're certainly gaining credibility around here.

I am truly LMFAO!

-Roger
 
duke@neo.rr.com said:
I narrowed it down to 2 because around here that's what you have to choose from for a custom cue.

LOL Nice spin, cause as we all know in this day and age you can only get a custom cue from someone in a 20 mile radius. I also missed the part where shoutout said he was from PA and only wanted a cue that was made close to him. I wonder how Zack does it, he has a cue from Edwin, one from Skip and a Gilbert, he must own houses all over.

anyone can get a "production" cue. as far as I know...

As far as I know anyone can get ANY (custom or production) cue they want, but I guess you haven't heard of a phone and UPS.

he don't need you to buy a cue from him, as he's busy enough from knowledgeable people and not narrow-minded people like yourself.

Yes I'm narrow minded, but not so much that I can't see right through you and your act, and from the looks of things I'm not the only one LOL what a clown you are. I always wonder about these guys who have a tiny fan club of people who can't stop singing their praises.

Jim
 
nice.

Bamacues said:
I buy and sell cues....that is part of what I do. I have run a pro shop for several years now. I have a lot of cues. My player is a Southwest...I have no intention of changing that. I but cues from different cuemakers and check them out to see if I can provide assistance when asked a question by my customers. Rauenzahn cues were recommended to me by several of my associates at shows, etc, as an affordable alternative to higher end production cues. I got a couple to try out and assess. I found them to hit very well, the points are very even and sharp, the leather wrap is very nicely done...far better than a bunch of other cuemakers I have seen. The only thing that I don't like is that the butt of my Southwest is thinner. I like the thinner butt. For the money, I think the cue is very nice. That is only my opinion.......

I finally got an image to upload...I apologize for the quality, however, if you look at the pic of the joint rings, the shaft on th left is from my Southwest (has the green ring). Jerry's ringwork is very nicely done.
of all the rauenzahn cues I've seen, I have to say this IS the nicest looking! he did a very good job on this cue. it just isn't what I'm used to seeing from his shop. nice cue!! I hope it plays at least 1/2 as well as it looks.
 
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