Jerry's Billiards, Pasadena, CA - Another one biting the dust?

The Zoning Board thinks they should operate from 7AM to 10PM. They would rather close at 1AM. Evidently the ZB is not familiar with pool halls. According to the article, a pool hall is no longer an allowed business in that area. Jerry's has been in business since the 80s. I've been there a couple of times.
 
Bob Jewett said:
The Zoning Board thinks they should operate from 7AM to 10PM. They would rather close at 1AM. Evidently the ZB is not familiar with pool halls. According to the article, a pool hall is no longer an allowed business in that area. Jerry's has been in business since the 80s. I've been there a couple of times.
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I've been there too - smallish and unremarkable, but it beats a blank for the neighborhood. Be a shame to lose it on a zoning technicality - they've apparently been there for 35+ years.

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This is a injustice personified…….at the very least, Jerry’s should be grandfathered in as an exception.

By not allowing that, the City of Pasadena is undermining the opportunity to remain in business which
really is equivalent to tortious interference thus making this illegal & improper to prosecute the pool hall.
 
It’s not just CA. Any large city is going to have ordinances that are reviewed,
debated, modified or rescinded. Follow the money……it leads to the power.

And power corrupts. Maybe some large real estate development is pushing
a major project with the city & it fits nicely with the new business development
plan being considered for approval? CA has this bullshit but so does a lot of
cities in other states with large populations thus suggesting more bureaucracy.

It makes no sense other than they want the business to relocate or else close.
Again, follow the money…it always applies at the city, state and federal levels.

Voters need to hold their elected officials and representatives more accountable.
There’s way too much constituent indifference in America & more folks should vote.

The options are to do nothing and bitch about things or exercise your right to vote.
Express your needs and views to new candidates for office & help to change things.
 
Bavafongoul said:
It’s not just CA. Any large city is going to have ordinances that are reviewed,
debated, modified or rescinded. Follow the money……it leads to the power.

And power corrupts. Maybe some large real estate development is pushing
a major project with the city & it fits nicely with the new business development
plan being considered for approval? CA has this bullshit but so does a lot of
cities in other states with large populations thus suggesting more bureaucracy.

It makes no sense other than they want the business to relocate or else close.
Again, follow the money…it always applies at the city, state and federal levels.

Voters need to hold their elected officials and representatives more accountable.
There’s way too much constituent indifference in America & more folks should vote.

The options are to do nothing and bitch about things or exercise your right to vote.
Express your needs and views to new candidates for office & help to change things.
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They did vote. And now they are getting what they asked for. Sounds like an Arron Lewis song..... when you give what you give, you get what you got.
 
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Bob Jewett said:
The Zoning Board thinks they should operate from 7AM to 10PM. They would rather close at 1AM. Evidently the ZB is not familiar with pool halls. According to the article, a pool hall is no longer an allowed business in that area. Jerry's has been in business since the 80s. I've been there a couple of times.
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You are right and wrong. Yes, the pool hall is now an unallowed business. But the zoning board is familiar with the operation of a pool hall, and they know exactly what they are doing. If there is one thing California politicians know how to do well, its shut down small businesses. This is being done with purpose. Ask yourself this question.... what other businesses in the area are being forced to operate under these new zoning laws?
 
Can not fight City Hall, but you can lobby officials with CAMPAIGN DONATIONS.💵💵💵💵💵

Sad this is how Worlds runs greased by money.

It happens in Washington DC, and down at little Township.
 
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buckshotshoey said:
...what other businesses in the area are being forced to operate under these new zoning laws?
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All of them that are subject to Section 17.40.070 of the Pasadena Zoning Code.

I know the area well, having lived here my whole life and have been to Jerry's several times. I don't really care for the place, but that's another issue all together. They are the only business in the area open past 10pm. The area where the pool hall is located is not the best part of town but, it isn't the worst either. Perhaps this is a move attempting to lower the crime rate in the area. Just spitballing on this one but Jerry's is adjacent to a very famous Historical Neighborhood: Bungalow Heaven (https://www.bungalowheaven.org). The leadership of the neighborhood association may or may not have some clout at City Hall or have complained about an increase in crime and are pointing to the pool hall as the source. It's possible this is where it all started.

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Texas Carom Club said:
it is california after all, what a shame
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I hear you but pool halls are being pushed out and shut down all over the country. In most large cities, the real estate is too valuable and there is a lot of redevelopment going on. It wouldn't surprise me if there is a planned development on the drawing board for the commercial block where Jerry's is. It's pretty run down.
 
rexus31 said:

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rexus31 said:

Popular Billiards Hall Appeals City Decision That Would Require It to Close at 10 p.m. – Pasadena Now

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Sounds like something from the Music Man…Bible thumping, abortion banning, book burning right wing rhetoric…here are the lyrics sung by Robert Preston to Ron Howard in the movie..

A pool table, don't you understand?
Friend, either you're closing your eyes
To a situation you do not wish to acknowledge
Or you are not aware of the caliber of disaster indicated
By the presence of a pool table in your community
Well, ya got trouble my friend, right here
I say, trouble right in River City, why sure, I'm a billiard player
Certainly, mighty proud I say, I'm always mighty proud to say it
I consider that the hours I spend with a cue in my hand are golden
Help you cultivate horse sense and a cool head and a keen eye
Did you ever take and try to find and iron-clad leave for yourself
From a three-rail billiard shot?
But just as I say
It takes judgement, brains and maturity to score
In a balkline game, I say that any boob
Can take and shove a ball in a pocket
And I call that sloth the first big step on the road
To the depths of deg-ra-day
I say, first, medicinal wine from a teaspoon
Then beer from a bottle
And the next thing you know
Your son is playing for money in a pinch-back suit
And listenin' to some big outta town jasper
Hearin' him tell about horse race gamblin'
Not a wholesome trottin' race, no
But a race where they set down right on the horse
Like to see some stuck-up jockey boy
Settin' on Dan Patch? Make your blood boil
Well I should say
Now friends, let me tell you what I mean
You got one, two, three, four, five, six pockets in a table
Pockets that mark the difference between a gentleman and a bum
With a capital "B" and that rhymes with "P" and that stands for pool
And all week long your River City youth'll be fritterin' away
I say, your young men will be fritterin'
Fritterin' away their noontime, suppertime, choretime too
Get the ball in the pocket, never mind gettin' dandelions pulled
Or the screen door patched or the beef steak pounded
Never mind pumpin' any water
'Til your parents are caught with the cistern empty
On a Saturday night and that's trouble
Yes you got lots and lots of trouble
I'm thinkin' of the kids in the knickerbockers
Shirt-tail young ones, peekin' in the pool hall window after school
You got trouble, folks
Right here in River City, trouble with a capital "T"
And that rhymes with "P" and that stands for pool
Now I know all you folks are the right kind of parents
I'm gonna be perfectly frank
Would you like to know what kinda conversation goes on
While they're loafing around that hall?
They be tryin' out Bevo, tryin' out cubebs
Tryin' out Tailor Mades like cigarette fiends
And braggin' all about how they're gonna cover up
A tell-tale breath with Sen-Sen
One fine night, they leave the pool hall
Heading for the dance at the Arm'ry
Libertine men and scarlet women, and ragtime, shameless music
That'll grab your son, your daught with the arms of a jungle, animal instinct
Mass-staria
Friends, the idle brain is the devil's playground
Trouble (oh we got trouble)
Right here in River City (right here in River City)
With a capital "T" and that rhymes with "P" and that stands for pool
(That stands for pool)
We've surely got trouble (we've surely got trouble)
Right here in River City (right here)
Gotta figure out a way to keep the young ones moral after school
(Our children's children gonna have trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble...)
Mothers of River City, heed that warning before it's too late
Watch for the the tell-tale signs of corruption
The minute your son leaves the house
Does he re-buckle his knickerbockers below the knee?
Is there a nicotine stain on his index finger?
A dime novel hidden in the corn crib?
Is he starting to memorise jokes from Cap'n Billy's Whiz Bang?
Are certain words creeping into his conversation
Words like, like "swell"? (Trouble, trouble, trouble)
And "so's your old man? (Trouble, trouble, trouble)
Well if so, my friends, you got trouble (oh we got trouble)
Right here in River City (right here in River City)
With a capital "T" and that rhymes with "P" and that stands for pool
(That stands for pool)
We've surely got trouble (we've surely got trouble)
Right here in River City (right here)
Remember the Maine, Plymouth Rock and the Golden Rule
(Our children's children gonna have trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble...)
Oh we got trouble, we're in terrible, terrible trouble
That game with the fifteen numbered balls is a devil's tool (devil's tool)
Oh yes we got trouble, trouble, trouble
(Oh yes we got trouble here, we got big, big trouble)
With a "T" (with a capital "T")
Gotta rhyme it with "P" (gotta rhyme with "P")
And that stands for pool (that stands for pool)
 
This is beyond outrageous. No ones capable of thinking any longer. Easily grandfathered in but everyone just goes by the book with zero thought about the people they affect.
 
Brookeland Bill said:
Sounds like something from the Music Man…Bible thumping, abortion banning, book burning right wing rhetoric…here are the lyrics sung by Robert Preston to Ron Howard in the movie..

A pool table, don't you understand?
Friend, either you're closing your eyes
To a situation you do not wish to acknowledge
Or you are not aware of the caliber of disaster indicated
By the presence of a pool table in your community
Well, ya got trouble my friend, right here
I say, trouble right in River City, why sure, I'm a billiard player
Certainly, mighty proud I say, I'm always mighty proud to say it
I consider that the hours I spend with a cue in my hand are golden
Help you cultivate horse sense and a cool head and a keen eye
Did you ever take and try to find and iron-clad leave for yourself
From a three-rail billiard shot?
But just as I say
It takes judgement, brains and maturity to score
In a balkline game, I say that any boob
Can take and shove a ball in a pocket
And I call that sloth the first big step on the road
To the depths of deg-ra-day
I say, first, medicinal wine from a teaspoon
Then beer from a bottle
And the next thing you know
Your son is playing for money in a pinch-back suit
And listenin' to some big outta town jasper
Hearin' him tell about horse race gamblin'
Not a wholesome trottin' race, no
But a race where they set down right on the horse
Like to see some stuck-up jockey boy
Settin' on Dan Patch? Make your blood boil
Well I should say
Now friends, let me tell you what I mean
You got one, two, three, four, five, six pockets in a table
Pockets that mark the difference between a gentleman and a bum
With a capital "B" and that rhymes with "P" and that stands for pool
And all week long your River City youth'll be fritterin' away
I say, your young men will be fritterin'
Fritterin' away their noontime, suppertime, choretime too
Get the ball in the pocket, never mind gettin' dandelions pulled
Or the screen door patched or the beef steak pounded
Never mind pumpin' any water
'Til your parents are caught with the cistern empty
On a Saturday night and that's trouble
Yes you got lots and lots of trouble
I'm thinkin' of the kids in the knickerbockers
Shirt-tail young ones, peekin' in the pool hall window after school
You got trouble, folks
Right here in River City, trouble with a capital "T"
And that rhymes with "P" and that stands for pool
Now I know all you folks are the right kind of parents
I'm gonna be perfectly frank
Would you like to know what kinda conversation goes on
While they're loafing around that hall?
They be tryin' out Bevo, tryin' out cubebs
Tryin' out Tailor Mades like cigarette fiends
And braggin' all about how they're gonna cover up
A tell-tale breath with Sen-Sen
One fine night, they leave the pool hall
Heading for the dance at the Arm'ry
Libertine men and scarlet women, and ragtime, shameless music
That'll grab your son, your daught with the arms of a jungle, animal instinct
Mass-staria
Friends, the idle brain is the devil's playground
Trouble (oh we got trouble)
Right here in River City (right here in River City)
With a capital "T" and that rhymes with "P" and that stands for pool
(That stands for pool)
We've surely got trouble (we've surely got trouble)
Right here in River City (right here)
Gotta figure out a way to keep the young ones moral after school
(Our children's children gonna have trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble...)
Mothers of River City, heed that warning before it's too late
Watch for the the tell-tale signs of corruption
The minute your son leaves the house
Does he re-buckle his knickerbockers below the knee?
Is there a nicotine stain on his index finger?
A dime novel hidden in the corn crib?
Is he starting to memorise jokes from Cap'n Billy's Whiz Bang?
Are certain words creeping into his conversation
Words like, like "swell"? (Trouble, trouble, trouble)
And "so's your old man? (Trouble, trouble, trouble)
Well if so, my friends, you got trouble (oh we got trouble)
Right here in River City (right here in River City)
With a capital "T" and that rhymes with "P" and that stands for pool
(That stands for pool)
We've surely got trouble (we've surely got trouble)
Right here in River City (right here)
Remember the Maine, Plymouth Rock and the Golden Rule
(Our children's children gonna have trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble...)
Oh we got trouble, we're in terrible, terrible trouble
That game with the fifteen numbered balls is a devil's tool (devil's tool)
Oh yes we got trouble, trouble, trouble
(Oh yes we got trouble here, we got big, big trouble)
With a "T" (with a capital "T")
Gotta rhyme it with "P" (gotta rhyme with "P")
And that stands for pool (that stands for pool)
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was there really need to post every damn word????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ;)
 
The 7am - 10pm hours of entertaining and hospitality are perfect for the decerned for pleasure.
hell, by 10pm one should could be snuggled up with honey bunny.

Now that the leader has checked in the future is great again,
by 7am cards/match ups are prepared for the post at 1pm
 
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