John Davis cues lowballed

[wyld78]

How infurating it must be for all of the people who ordered a cue in good faith from John Davis to see one of his new cues advertised here for less than he charged them to make one. I was cojoled into getting in on the bottom floor,his cues would surley increase in value and now before I even receive mine the price is dropping. I did not buy the cue to make a fast buck like some lousy cue pimp,and I hate the fact that John has fallen prey to such lurking dollar general flippers.http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=61061

There's some good points buried in your posts. It is sad that some makers allow 50 buck "cue pimps" to shave hundreds off their retail and effect the values down the road.

 

[hejests]

One-off sales don't hurt market value. Downward trends hurt market value and a one-off sale is by no means a trend.

If i happen to pickup a mint 1967 corvette at an auction (even if it's an extremely well publicized sale/auction) for $500, it doesn't mean that the market value for 67vette's everywhere has been damaged... it just means I got one heck of a deal

 

[8-ball Rat]

One-off sales don't hurt market value. Downward trends hurt market value and a one-off sale is by no means a trend.

If i happen to pickup a mint 1967 corvette at an auction (even if it's an extremely well publicized sale/auction) for $500, it doesn't mean that the market value for 67vette's everywhere has been damaged... it just means I got one heck of a deal

No....it means you beat the auctioneer about the head and shoulders with a tire iron........then stole the keys!!

 

[Hidy Ho]

For all who speculated as to my intentions about flipping the cue-Try reading my original post. There you will find that I had no designs on flipping my cue.

The posters who think my concerns were not warrented are most assuredly entitled to your opinion.

I am thick skinned and mindless tripe does nothing to change the fact that the cue only hurts John Davis' cue values when listed as one of his cues,not a cue made with his blank. No harm if it was listed factually and not as a new cue from his shop.

As I clearly stated,my thoughts would have been different if the cue had been described truthfully. Explaining after the fact that the cue was just a blank with a finish applied by someone else and shaft work also done by someone else would have never caused concern.

I have watched other sellers of John Davis cues uphold a commitment to keep his cue prices where they should be for a maker with his provenance.They had the class to offer the cue discretely and protect the value. I may be the only one who will say what I did in this post,but I know others feel the same.

When I was informed that Greg was guiding John Davis in his fledgeling business I decided that it was time to get out from under the cue. It was my opinion that his direction would not lead John Davis cues to a status I had envisioned.

Actually you're doing a good job of trying to destroy ZAC cue and now John Davis cue with threads like this. Based on ZAC cue thread, I know you're not open-minded or listening to difference in opinions.

 

[runscott]

Actually you're doing a good job of trying to destroy ZAC cue and now John Davis cue with threads like this. Based on ZAC cue thread, I know you're not open-minded or listening to difference in opinions.

Jazz, I don't think he's going to have any negative effect on John's business - his comments are really illogical and most people can see that.

John makes great blanks and we are still waiting to see pics of a cue that he made completely on his own. Until we see some good pics and get reviews of how they play, it's all just educated guesses, but the smart guess based on his background is that they will be very high quality and those who aren't getting them now will wish they had.

 

[Alberto001]

Actually you're doing a good job of trying to destroy ZAC cue and now John Davis cue with threads like this. Based on ZAC cue thread, I know you're not open-minded or listening to difference in opinions.

I couldn't agree with you more. Hangemhigh seems intent to damage cuemaker's reputation on situations without the benefit of the doubt.

Albert ( ZAC CUE DEALER )

 

[Alberto001]

Oops Sorry.......I meant " Authorized Zac Cue Dealer " for Ebay.

 

[ribdoner]

Jazz, I don't think he's going to have any negative effect on John's business - his comments are really illogical and most people can see that.

John makes great blanks and we are still waiting to see pics of a cue that he made completely on his own. Until we see some good pics and get reviews of how they play, it's all just educated guesses, but the smart guess based on his background is that they will be very high quality and those who aren't getting them now will wish they had.

SCOTT,

I had the pleasure of dabbin em with a DAVIS for a couple of hours.

My impressions:

Lots of feedback to butt hand...full splice construction had amazing impact

Easy to dance/spin/stun whitey around the table due to long, elegant SZAMBOTI like shaft taper. The quality of the shaft wood was also a factor, it was as good as any I've seen in a long time.

Fit (ferrules, rings, etc.) was good.

I'm getting one

 

[vicdotcom]

Explaining after the fact that the cue was just a blank with a finish applied by someone else and shaft work also done by someone else would have never caused concern.

Man since when is a cue that is complete except for shaft collars and finish a blank? Shaft taper? Join installation and allignment? Tapping? A joints? Ferrul? Tips? Tenons? This sounds a lot more than a blank to me.

If I had a brand new cue from a maker that was never used and had someone refinish it, I would consider that more than a blank huh?
Refering it as a blank seems to be a way to justify things so someone wouldnt have to admit they were wrong in the first place?

But I think Im done with this thread also. I think its apparent how everyone feels on this.

Vic