John Morra joins the 800 Club

[dquarasr]

I don’t understand Fargo - how is 863 63% better than 800? Wouldn’t that be like 10.5% better?

The way I understand how Fargo rates work, for every 100 points difference, the higher skilled player is predicted to win twice as many games (or 100% more). So a 63% difference means the higher skilled player is predicted to win 63% more games.

 

[George the Greek]

I wonder if John's dad Mario (710 FR) would be a good match against him?

 

[SBC]

Morra works diligently at his game. Pure class too. Be nice to see him able to play more big events and take a few down.

 

[GideonF]

I wonder if John's dad Mario (710 FR) would be a good match against him?

Mario stopped playing tournaments for the last few years, maybe 5 or 6 years, because of family commitments. He’s just started playing again the last few months.

Back when they were both playing tournaments in Ontario, Mario and John would occasionally play each other. Unlike Ernesto Dominguez with Oscar, Mario does not just forfeit to John. He fights tooth and nail to try to beat him (but can’t beat him anymore).

 

[Bob Jewett]

I don’t understand Fargo - how is 863 63% better than 800? Wouldn’t that be like 10.5% better?

If you want to understand FargoRate, the FargoRate website has a FAQ page with lot of info.

Mike Page, who invented FargoRate, has posted some explanations here. He also has posted some videos on YouTube.

If you know chess ratings, FargoRate is a lot like that, but designed to be more accurate.

As mentioned above, if an 800 plays a 700, they will win twice as many games. If a 700 plays a 600, they will win twice as many games. If a 600 plays a 500, they will win twice as many games. That's on average. It is all based on the difference in ratings, and all those differences are 100 points. And if a an 800 plays a 500, that's three hundreds apart so the ratio of wins is 2*2*2 = 8 and the 800 will win 8 out of 9 games.

The FargoRate website also has a probability calculator where you can stick in the ratings and match length and see the chance for each player to win the match. If an 800 plays a 770 a race to 11, the better player will win 68.5% of the time, on average.

 

[g0ds gReeN]

Well done.

 

[jnwilliams]

If you want to understand FargoRate, the FargoRate website has a FAQ page with lot of info.

Mike Page, who invented FargoRate, has posted some explanations here. He also has posted some videos on YouTube.

If you know chess ratings, FargoRate is a lot like that, but designed to be more accurate.

As mentioned above, if an 800 plays a 700, they will win twice as many games. If a 700 plays a 600, they will win twice as many games. If a 600 plays a 500, they will win twice as many games. That's on average. It is all based on the difference in ratings, and all those differences are 100 points. And if a an 800 plays a 500, that's three hundreds apart so the ratio of wins is 2*2*2 = 8 and the 800 will win 8 out of 9 games.

The FargoRate website also has a probability calculator where you can stick in the ratings and match length and see the chance for each player to win the match. If an 800 plays a 770 a race to 11, the better player will win 68.5% of the time, on average.

very clear explanation. Thanks for that

 

[AtLarge]

I don’t understand Fargo - how is 863 63% better than 800? Wouldn’t that be like 10.5% better?

As mentioned, if two players differ in FargoRate by 100 points, the higher-rated player is twice as likely to win a game (66.7% to 33.3%, a ratio of 2:1). So we could say he is 100% "better" than the lower-rated player.

In the Filler/Morra case mentioned above, we have a 63 point difference in ratings. That translates into probabilities of 60.7% to 39.3% of their winning a game. 60.7 ÷ 39.3 is about 1.545, so we could say that the 863 player is about 54½% "better" than the 800 player.

Rounding the numbers off a bit, if Player A is 60% likely to win a game against Player B's 40%, then Player A is 50% "better."

[Josh is up to 864 today!]

 

[sciarco]

In pool i think Filler is the best today in any game ,my opinion for whatever it,s worth.

 

[GideonF]

I wonder if John's dad Mario (710 FR) would be a good match against him?

By the way, Mario was a force in his day. Runner up to Alex Pagulayan (I believe the match was very close) in the Canadian 9b finals and he also was runner up in the 10b one year. He also made the last 32 in the World Snooker Championships back in 1984.

Father Time is undefeated but Mario still plays very strong.

 

[Island Drive]

I don’t understand Fargo - how is 863 63% better than 800? Wouldn’t that be like 10.5% better?

I think they explain in on their website....
Like a golfaverage above or below par so to speak.

 

[Frosty]

I never really enjoyed watching him play as he’s a uh, deliberate player, you have to give him his due though. While it may not seem a big thing to some that he’s topped 800, the fact that he did it after switching playing hands is pretty impressive