I thought it was the TOI system, are you renaming it for CJ now?
John Schmidt says CTE works after all.
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I thought it was the TOI system, are you renaming it for CJ now?
....and I guess Hell will freeze over before we see a video of you playing.
lol
I think you and StraightPool99 (and "others like you") should realize that resorting to insulting the playing abilities of people you've never seen play only demonstrates the shortcomings of your own capacity for rational discussion.
Maybe you'll have more success comparing "others" to Hitler...? That'll show 'em.
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chgo
lol
How do you explain the difference to the CB?
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chgo
Not the first thing you've gotten wrong (lord knows
)."I've been told" you kick puppies. Why do you do that?
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With speed of travel through time.
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That reference is not a specific dig on one's playing ability but merely a reference to one's attitude & how a player thinks about certain matters.
Mike Sigel played very well but made a statement that either squirt or swerve did not exists. I never can remember which one he was talking about perhaps because I never got a solid explanation, but you & others should get the point.
Not the first thing you've gotten wrong (lord knows
"I've been told" you kick puppies. Why do you do that?
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chgo
So, are you saying that the individual that told me that is telling a lie?
If so, I will pass that on.
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There are individuals that seem to play the game like a robot & there are those that play the game like athletes or artists.
Paper or book players vs. feel, method, & technique players.
It's one thing to know & understand the geometry & physics vs not.
It's a whole other matter to know them to the point of paralyzing one's ability to really PLAY the game.
I am very glad that I learned to PLAY the Game & started using english as a young teenager a couple of full years plus before I started on my 3 years of physics education.
One does not need one iota of physics explanation in order to PLAY the Game extremely well.
All one needs is an understanding of cause & effect. Do this & the ball & balls do that.
I stroke into the CB differently whether I am going to use an off center hit for the purpose of the spin vs whether I am going to use the same off center hit for the purpose of the squirt. (My stroke is actually different other than just it's speed, but that is an even more controversial subject)
The off center hit produces both squirt & spin. A hammer both drives nails & pulls nails. One can use the same hammer for both purposes one separate from the other at any given time.
The speed of the shot will dictate whether or not the effects of the spin can take effect for matters such as throwing a ball with spin induced throw vs whether it is of a speed that will not really let that happen.
When it is of a speed that will not really let that happen it does NOT take the squirt out of play.
When the speed is of an amount that will allow spin induced throw it is heading in the direction that might allow swerve to come into play.
When one wants squirt with very little to no swerve the ball must be hit firmly & with some speed.
When one wants to use that same off center hit for the purpose of spin induced throw one must hit the ball at a speed (lesser) that will allow the spin to grab & throw the ball.
Two totally different purposes from the same amount of off center hit but hit at different speeds & firmness of hit.
This is partly why some should perhaps take lessons from players that understand the differences & were capable of & actually did play at the Pro Level like CJ Wiley & Fran Crimi.
Yet some will criticize CJ Wiley as though he does not know what he is talking about. I could be wrong, but I do not think CJ has 3 years of physics education, but I'd rather be taught how to PLAY the Game by him(or Fran Crimi) than I would by one of those paper or book guys.
Please note that I said SOME perhaps should take lessons from those like CJ Wiley & not everyone.
Like my Civics Teacher taught me, one should always consider the source of who is saying what & whether or not they have any ulterior motive or agenda for saying the things that they say & the supposed information that they are putting out.
Paper or book players vs. feel, method, & technique players.
It's one thing to know & understand the geometry & physics vs not.
It's a whole other matter to know them to the point of paralyzing one's ability to really PLAY the game.
I am very glad that I learned to PLAY the Game & started using english as a young teenager a couple of full years plus before I started on my 3 years of physics education.
One does not need one iota of physics explanation in order to PLAY the Game extremely well.
All one needs is an understanding of cause & effect. Do this & the ball & balls do that.
I stroke into the CB differently whether I am going to use an off center hit for the purpose of the spin vs whether I am going to use the same off center hit for the purpose of the squirt. (My stroke is actually different other than just it's speed, but that is an even more controversial subject)
The off center hit produces both squirt & spin. A hammer both drives nails & pulls nails. One can use the same hammer for both purposes one separate from the other at any given time.
The speed of the shot will dictate whether or not the effects of the spin can take effect for matters such as throwing a ball with spin induced throw vs whether it is of a speed that will not really let that happen.
When it is of a speed that will not really let that happen it does NOT take the squirt out of play.
When the speed is of an amount that will allow spin induced throw it is heading in the direction that might allow swerve to come into play.
When one wants squirt with very little to no swerve the ball must be hit firmly & with some speed.
When one wants to use that same off center hit for the purpose of spin induced throw one must hit the ball at a speed (lesser) that will allow the spin to grab & throw the ball.
Two totally different purposes from the same amount of off center hit but hit at different speeds & firmness of hit.
This is partly why some should perhaps take lessons from players that understand the differences & were capable of & actually did play at the Pro Level like CJ Wiley & Fran Crimi.
Yet some will criticize CJ Wiley as though he does not know what he is talking about. I could be wrong, but I do not think CJ has 3 years of physics education, but I'd rather be taught how to PLAY the Game by him(or Fran Crimi) than I would by one of those paper or book guys.
Please note that I said SOME perhaps should take lessons from those like CJ Wiley & not everyone.
Like my Civics Teacher taught me, one should always consider the source of who is saying what & whether or not they have any ulterior motive or agenda for saying the things that they say & the supposed information that they are putting out.
Right, "one" only needs that in order to talk about the physics intelligently - you know, without tanking every technical thread "one" infects.
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chgo
Do you mean like someone that "tanks" every non technical thread where individuals actually want to talk about actually playing the game through the use of methods & techniques etc. & most don't really give a rat about the physics & science & such, but regardless of that someone like you continually rains them down like lightning & thunder until the thread basically dies from being hit by that 'lightening'?
Certain scientific technical things that are said in isolation can be rather misleading for those that do not know any better & do not know the truth of matters regarding the bigger picture.
That is rather often done here on AZB.
It rather amazes me, but sadly so, how some think that 'they' are the center of attention & that the forums are just 'their' own private playground & that everyone must participate only as 'they' see fit... so as to insure 'their thunder' & keep it from possibly being stolen or shown to be merely a wash tub & a hammer.
Talking intelligently about physics requires actually knowing & understanding physics & not just parroting what one has heard, read, or researched regarding the one application of how it relates to pool.
When one is limited by only the one application of pool, one can not actually talk about physics intelligently, but only a few aspect of it as they relate to that one application of pool. When that is the situation one can make mistakes as they think it has all been decided & that is just how it is.
The science of physics is way more than just that.
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GoldenFlash
Banned
Bazinga!
Good grief.....
Dr. Sheldon Cooper has spoken again. (re: The Big Bang Theory)
Good grief.....
All i can say is that i picked up on CTE on 2-22-16 and worked on it every day since (ive been on vacation this week). Ive only seen the youtube videos and discussions on this site. With the 15 and 30 I am continuously splitting the center pocket. Im 50/50 past that and use the SEE system (until my CTE DVD gets here) I dont care how it works all i know is that in a short time i am drilling shots in from all over the table and am not that caught up in getting perfect shape. all i need is a clear view of the ball and a pocket. Ive already used it in a match against a very good player and beat him for the first time.
We hear this a lot, you guy's are so lucky. Many of us are jealous you know, good luck to you with it. Only in 4 days..thats awesome.
That's Great! As long as you are pocketing all of the shots it does not matter what the reason is for you.
If going to it has helped & there is an improvement in how you are playing then that's all that really matters for you.
Personally, I'd be interested in how you would shoot the infamous 5 shots using the ETA & thinning pivot for all 5.
Congratulations & Best Wishes,
Rick
Actually you should be more interested in doing it yourself, to see how you would do it.
But of course, you know the answer to that don't you?
As you like put it, differences between players who play the game like athletes vs paper players who play like robots. You missed a category, for yourself. Keyboard players that don't play the game at all.
But of course, you know the answer to that don't you?
As you like put it, differences between players who play the game like athletes vs paper players who play like robots. You missed a category, for yourself. Keyboard players that don't play the game at all.
Don't forget those that are nothing more than product demonstrators and not really instructors at all.
....and then there is Duckie, the "one who won't follow the herd". How you and CJ never saw eye to eye is a mystery to me.
Do you have any more demonstrations of the Arrow for us? You make it sound like a Ronco product, cut shots, banks, combos and carom's. It slices and dices, no fuss no muss. Set it and forget it.
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