john schmidt

[JDB]

I have been a member here for nearly ten years though I don't post a lot and it's a shame for John to leave but it happens to every pro eventually. Not only here but on other forums as well in other disciplines. Most posters mean well but on every forum there are those who get a kick out of talking down to the professionals and berating them. I can't blame the pros for going away. I would too.

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I agree with you for the most part; however, there are times where the pros just can't accept someone that doesn't agree with them whether it is respectful disagreement or not.

Unfortunately, their perception of the disagreement and undying devotion to their opinion is what ultimately drives some away.

Face it, most professionals at any sport have a Type AAA personality. That type of personality generally has conflict when they run into other Type A personalities.

However, I agree, too, that many "get a kick out of talking down to professionals..." too, which is really unfortunate.

I, too, wish John would stay.

 

[Gatz]

That is too bad. Way to go fellas. Chase off one of the only pros to share his insight. I hope you are proud.

Yeah his insight is the only insight. He doesn't belong on any forum period if he can't stand alittle debate about something, or differences of opinion. It's his way, or the highway.

For someone that's supposed to have so much "CLASS", he sure acts like an immature kid on here.

 

[SUPERSTAR]

ill tell you what . their is so many people on here that are complete wanna be losers that im not going to give them the chance to say a word in my direction.
honestly i cant type anyway and i have better things to do like actually being a champion instead of talking about it like many of the tards on here.
99 percent on here are great and im going to miss you guys but you guys can all ask questions and discuss things with the real masters like mowen down,chewning,shooting arts etc.All bow down and worship the ground i walk on because i am the pool messiah.
many on here are mature secure adults with good jobs etc that play pool for fun,you dont see me as a threat or enemy, because im a better player.
many on here are actually trying to get to where im at in pool and see me as a direct threat and no matter what i say tell me im a egomaniac arrogant jerk etc.they belittle everything ive done in pool and say things like with enough practice ill be better than you and you need weight from this guy and that etc.About the arrogance, please refer to your highlighted sentence above.
they are totally jealous haters and have been their whole lives.Jealous, maybe, haters, maybe, but just look at how your going off. It's not like this is the first time you've gone ballistic, and considering that you do it in such blazing fashion, do you really think people are going to forget?
until this is a forum where i know who im speaking too and everybody uses a real name like i do im done with being a target for guys who are wanna bes.

i think if i stay on here i will use a fake name and take cheap shots at everybody.
if you guys think i speak my mind now wait until im using a fake name lol.

oh by the way the 99 percent on here thats great people im sorry to go, you can directly thank all the *****s .i tell the guys on tour im on here and people treat me like shit.they all say why would you bother you have no chance because you use your real name,your a target for the haters.

if im seen posting under john schmidt anymore im going to donate 1000 to charity .
so in parting instead of saying something friendly and respectfull,instead im going to talk like the haters on here.

all you losers that live with your mommies ,who couldnt get laid if i sent you too an island full of swine flu victims with the h1n1 vaccine in your dick,who have a shoe size bigger than their high run in 14.1,who say they will be pro in 2 years even though after 15 years are still an apa 5 ,can all eat shit.im done with wannabeville. By far, one of the greatest examples of professionalism in billiards history. :barf::barf:
im only speaking too 1 percent on here but you know who you are.

It's no wonder that he erased this in the original thread.
But oh well, it's too late now.
No jealousy, and no hatred, simply the ability to recognize a pool snob when i see one.
Great pool playing champion? Absolutely!!!
God that deserves to be worshipped? Not in this frigging lifetime.:nono:

Maybe he will come back and show some humility. LOL, ok, that was kind of funny.
Lets just keep it to maybe he will come back.

 

[poolmaster]

Yeah his insight is the only insight. He doesn't belong on any forum period if he can't stand alittle debate about something, or differences of opinion. It's his way, or the highway.

For someone that's supposed to have so much "CLASS", he sure acts like an immature kid on here.

You started this whole thing with John, all because he told you the truth. I guess the
truth was hard to swallow. If it takes just practice and nothing else, then I should be
able to see you winning major tourneys, how come you're not? Oh, I know, you have
to practice just a tiny bit more.

 

[Gatz]

You started this whole thing with John, all because he told you the truth. I guess the
truth was hard to swallow. If it takes just practice and nothing else, then I should be
able to see you winning major tourneys, how come you're not? Oh, I know, you have
to practice just a tiny bit more.

Yeah but he was the one that blew it way out of proportion. I also stopped posting in there and he kept on getting worse and worse with other people.

He can't stand differences of opinions thats all. I said it numerous times that it was just my opinion. He also stuffed words into my mouth that I never even said. I suggest you go read the whole thread again. Not once did I call John any names.

Also for the record, I never said one that I personally was going to become a champion, I was simply saying with the right path,training and desire someone could do it. I also apologised to John and he never said one word, he just kept ramplying on about how great he is and how shitty everyone else is.

His opinion is the only right opinion, you have to born a champion, no other way, nope. No other ways of doing it. LOL hes special.

If it takes a difference of opinion to make someone leave a forum, then they shouldn't be here anyways.

 

[poolmaster]

Yeah but he was the one that blew it way out of proportion. I also stopped posting in there and he kept on getting worse and worse with other people.

He can't stand differences of opinions thats all. I said it numerous times that it was just my opinion. He also stuffed words into my mouth that I never even said. I suggest you go read the whole thread again. Not once did I call John any names.

Also for the record, I never said one that I personally was going to become a champion, I was simply saying with the right path,training and desire someone could do it. I also apologised to John and he never said one word, he just kept ramplying on about how great he is and how shitty everyone else is.

His opinion is the only right opinion, you have to born a champion, no other way, nope. No other ways of doing it. LOL hes special.

If it takes a difference of opinion to make someone leave a forum, then they shouldn't be here anyways.

What do you mean, you stopped posting? You are doing it right now, days after the
fight. With all due respect, you're the one who doesn't know how to let it go. He didn't
respond to your appologies, I wouldn't either.

 

[Gatz]

Everyone hates me now because supposably I hit a nerv with John Schmidt over an internet forum, and he leaves.

 

[sjm]

This is a touchy subject, always has been, always will be.

A fundamental reality of our forum is that there is no rank around here. On this forum, we who exchange ideas have a highly diverse composition, including:

professional players
aspiring professionals
serious amateur players
retired players
stakehorses and gamblers
pool instructors
pool students
poolroom proprietors
equipment gurus
sponsors of the game
tournament organizers
pool industry entrepreneurs
officers and administrators of pool organizations
benefactors and financiers of the game
fans of the game
game theorists
pool nostalgists and historians

Every one of these groups (and some posters fall into several categoires) gives and gets something from the forum. In fact, it was the pro Dennis Hatch who recently demonstrated the incredible access AZB offers to all who care about this sport when he successfully campaigned for his Mosconi Cup spot.

Let's face it --- as posters, we all have different agendas and different reasons for conversing with others in AZB threads, but the most fundamental principle of this forum is that everyone's opinion is welcomed, and debates, even heated ones, conducted in a spirit of mutual respect for other posters are what this forum is all about.

On the matter of John Schmidt, my feeling is that he is proven superstar as a player and a fine representative of our sport whom I wish well in all his endeavors bot inside and outside of our sport, but whether he posts here is his business, and I'm more than prepared to accept any decision he makes in that regard.

 

[Da Bank]

"Three men in a car are driving down a city street early one morning. The man sitting on the right is a positive thinker who believes that his game is great and is full of self-esteem because his game is so superior. He's also a self-admitted playboy who enjoys all the "pleasures" life has to offer. The man sitting in the middle is a negative thinker who is constantly analyzing what is wrong with himself and the world. He is always involved in some kind of self-improvement program. The third man, who is driving, is in the process of letting go of judgmental thinking altogether. He plays the game, enjoying things as they are and doing what seems sensible.

The car pulls up at a spotlight, and crossing the street in front of the car is a beautiful young lady who catches the attention of all three men. Her beauty is particularly apparent as she is stark naked!

The man on the right becomes engrossed in thoughts of how nice it would be to be with this lady under other circumstances. His mind races through past memories and future fantasies of sensual pleasures.

The man sitting in the middle is seeing an example of modern decadence. He's not sure that he should be looking closely at the girl. First miniskirts, he thinks, then topless dancers, then bottomless dancers, and now they're out on the streets in broad daylight! Something must be done to stop all this!

The driver is seeing the same girl that others are observing, but is simply watching what is before his eyes. He sees neither good nor bad, and as a result, a detail comes to his attention which was not noticed by either of his companions: the girl's eyes are shut. He realizes that the lady is sleepwalking. Responding immediately with common sense, he asks the person next to him to take the wheel, steps out of the car, and puts his overcoat over the woman's shoulders. He gently wakes her and explains to her that she must have been sleepwalking and offers to take her home.

There, he received the rewards of his action. (Perceive what you will of this)"
-The Inner Game of Tennis

If you don't see how this applies to this issue, you never will.

 

[Gatz]

What do you mean, you stopped posting? You are doing it right now, days after the
fight. With all due respect, you're the one who doesn't know how to let it go. He didn't
respond to your appologies, I wouldn't either.

I stopped posting in that thread, because it was getting out of control. So why keep adding more to it?

And im the one who doesn't know how to let it go? I'm just defending myself now from all you guys who HANG off his balls. Go look in that thread and tell me he let it go, he starting insulting everyone that had a disagreement with him, and I'm not the only one in there that had one.

 

[PoolSharkAllen]

A few of us were discussing, NOT arguing, and some of us said that "given a certain baseline amount of physical/mental skill" that many players can achieve the level of a dominant regional player, that wins multiple regional events. If given two years of full time practice and not having to worry about money during that time.

You know, the sort of fellow that crushes B players, and leaves the B player telling his friends "He was a champion".

John then comes on and automatically assumes we are talking about a player the level of Putnam, himself, Efren, Archer, etc. And then begins to insult us for our opinion, even though it was clarified numerous times that we were speaking of a different level of player than he was. He would acknowledge that we were talking about different levels of players, then go right back to insulting us for saying we could play like him and Efren.

He used these sorts of insults against numerous people in the thread, no matter how many times we reiterated we acknowledged you had to have a certain level of genetic talent to play at John and Efren's level.

The "drama" in the thread came from John's total disrespect for other's opinions. We gave numerous examples of players who are not known to have tremendous physical gifts, but were still able to win a major tournament, and continue to be dominant regional players.

Russ

Russ,
Given that you posted an unbelievable 28 times in that other thread, you were clearly arguing not discussing the merits of what it takes to become a champion.

For one thing, you hijacked that thread. The topic was "What does it take to become a champion?" My definition of a "champion" is someone who is one of the very top players in the game.

You then proceeded to hijack the thread and define a "champion as someone who has/can win at least one major event, and dominates regional tournaments." You went on to give itty-bitty examples to support your position.

Even in this thread, you tried to redefine what a champion is: "You know, the sort of fellow that crushes B players, and leaves the B player telling his friends 'He was a champion'."

If a professional player like John Schmidt decided to leave AZB out of anger and frustration, it was primarily because of know-it-all Internet rail birds like you.

 

[Gatz]

How many times did John post in that thread? how much of that was constructive discussion? how much was just him posting about how good he is and how shit everyone else is?

I think John is a great player I've seen him play many times and enjoy watching his game. But his maturity is the same as a 12yr old.

 

[poolmaster]

I stopped posting in that thread, because it was getting out of control. So why keep adding more to it?

And im the one who doesn't know how to let it go? I'm just defending myself now from all you guys who HANG off his balls. Go look in that thread and tell me he let it go, he starting insulting everyone that had a disagreement with him, and I'm not the only one in there that had one.

It's not that you disagreed with him, it's how you did it. You said, that he's not a
world champion. What is exactly world championship, when it comes to this game.
In my eyes, winning an US Open is like winning a world championship. They might
not call it like that, but the players that play there are from all over the globe. Most
players, if not all think of US Open as the most prestigious title to have.

P.S. I don't hate you. You just rubbed me and others the wrong way for the time
being.

 

[poolmaster]

Russ,
Given that you posted an unbelievable 28 times in that other thread, you were clearly arguing not discussing the merits of what it takes to become a champion.

For one thing, you hijacked that thread. The topic was "What does it take to become a champion?" My definition of a "champion" is someone who is one of the very top players in the game.

You then proceeded to hijack the thread and define a "champion as someone who has/can win at least one major event, and dominates regional tournaments." You went on to give itty-bitty examples to support your position.

Even in this thread, you tried to redefine what a champion is: "You know, the sort of fellow that crushes B players, and leaves the B player telling his friends 'He was a champion'."

If a professional player like John Schmidt decided to leave AZB out of anger and frustration, it was primarily because of know-it-all Internet rail birds like you.

Thank you, you said it how it is!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gatz]

It's not that you disagreed with him, it's how you did it. You said, that he's not a
world champion. What is exactly world championship, when it comes to this game.
In my eyes, winning an US Open is like winning a world championship. They might
not call it like that, but the players that play there are from all over the globe. Most
players, if not all think of US Open as the most prestigious title to have.

P.S. I don't hate you. You just rubbed me and others the wrong way for the time
being.

LOL John himself even agreed with me that he himself is not a WORLD Champion. Winning the US open doesn't make you a World Champion (Just my 2 cents) but that is a whole nother topic that should not be discussed here.

 

[Gatz]

I guess the way John Schmidt handled himself in that thread was perfectly fine to you guys, but to me, I saw something totally different. I'm going to the DCC this year (90% sure) maybe he and I can have a normal face to face conversation and clear this all up.

 

[wahcheck]

what I will miss

I will miss those little pearls of speech from JS like:

"I would rather be eaten by a goat and shiit off a cliff"
"Maybe you could beat me in a Viagra eating contest or something"

 

[poolmaster]

LOL John himself even agreed with me that he himself is not a WORLD Champion. Winning the US open doesn't make you a World Champion (Just my 2 cents) but that is a whole nother topic that should not be discussed here.

Technically not, but that wasn't my point. He is considered one of the best in the world,
no matter how you cut it. Would you say that Busty is better of a player? Guess what,
Busty never won an US Open. To make it short and sweet, John belongs to this elite
group of players, that we call world beaters.

 

[PoolSharkAllen]

I guess the way John Schmidt handled himself in that thread was perfectly fine to you guys, but to me, I saw something totally different.

No question that John Schmidt handled himself very poorly. While his frustration and anger with the other posters was very understandable, the name-calling and belittling insults was completely unprofessional.

Just like Tiger Woods apologized to his fans for his "transgressions," John owes everyone here an apology for his unprofessional conduct.

 

[poolmaster]

I guess the way John Schmidt handled himself in that thread was perfectly fine to you guys, but to me, I saw something totally different. I'm going to the DCC this year (90% sure) maybe he and I can have a normal face to face conversation and clear this all up.

A perfect example, why I don't want anybody to know my real name!!!!!!!!!