Johnny Archer Bobbing and Plucking???

Colin Colenso

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What's up with Johnny Archer plucking invisible hairs off the table and bobbing up and down like an ostrich? It's so annoying to watch!
http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/bil...cher-parica.wvx

He seems to be having no fun at all when he plays. Is he heading for a nervous breakdown or what?

It seems every time the WPC comes around he's being touted as the in form favourite. I've never seen him playing in hot form. Maybe some of you here have.

I watched him in Japan against my buddy Johl Younger who was playing with a snooker cue. Johl beat him 13-11. It would have been 13-5 I reckon, save for Johnny getting a lot of great breaks including at least a couple of golden balls.

Anyway, just stirring the pot a bit for a reaction and some interesting conversation.
 
Colin Colenso said:
What's up with Johnny Archer plucking invisible hairs off the table and bobbing up and down like an ostrich? It's so annoying to watch!
http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/bil...cher-parica.wvx

He seems to be having no fun at all when he plays. Is he heading for a nervous breakdown or what?

It seems every time the WPC comes around he's being touted as the in form favourite. I've never seen him playing in hot form. Maybe some of you here have.

I watched him in Japan against my buddy Johl Younger who was playing with a snooker cue. Johl beat him 13-11. It would have been 13-5 I reckon, save for Johnny getting a lot of great breaks including at least a couple of golden balls.

Anyway, just stirring the pot a bit for a reaction and some interesting conversation.


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Seems they've shut it down.

Anyway, if you've seen Johnny play recently, you would have seen all the table cleaning crap he goes through. Heck, like a spec of fluff's gonna make him miss a shot.
 
Colin Colenso said:
Seems they've shut it down.

Anyway, if you've seen Johnny play recently, you would have seen all the table cleaning crap he goes through. Heck, like a spec of fluff's gonna make him miss a shot.

I guess you just need to get a stakehorse and go play him some.
 
Colin Colenso said:
Seems they've shut it down.

Anyway, if you've seen Johnny play recently, you would have seen all the table cleaning crap he goes through. Heck, like a spec of fluff's gonna make him miss a shot.

It is not a new thing.He has been doing that `cotton picking` for mor than 10 years.
By the way how is Johl Younger doing?
Vagabond :cool:
 
I dont know

Colin Colenso said:
What's up with Johnny Archer plucking invisible hairs off the table and bobbing up and down like an ostrich? It's so annoying to watch!
http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/bil...cher-parica.wvx

He seems to be having no fun at all when he plays. Is he heading for a nervous breakdown or what?

It seems every time the WPC comes around he's being touted as the in form favourite. I've never seen him playing in hot form. Maybe some of you here have.

I watched him in Japan against my buddy Johl Younger who was playing with a snooker cue. Johl beat him 13-11. It would have been 13-5 I reckon, save for Johnny getting a lot of great breaks including at least a couple of golden balls.

Anyway, just stirring the pot a bit for a reaction and some interesting conversation.
whatever hes doing it works , hes better than I so I dont Question! Bill
 
Colin Colenso said:
What's up with Johnny Archer plucking invisible hairs off the table and bobbing up and down like an ostrich? It's so annoying to watch!
http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/bil...cher-parica.wvx

He seems to be having no fun at all when he plays. Is he heading for a nervous breakdown or what?

It seems every time the WPC comes around he's being touted as the in form favourite. I've never seen him playing in hot form. Maybe some of you here have.

I watched him in Japan against my buddy Johl Younger who was playing with a snooker cue. Johl beat him 13-11. It would have been 13-5 I reckon, save for Johnny getting a lot of great breaks including at least a couple of golden balls.

Anyway, just stirring the pot a bit for a reaction and some interesting conversation.


I have seen him in dead stroke many times and
believe me he is unbeatable when he is. He once
ran 13 consecutive racks while gambling with
Bustamante.
 
RAG said:
I guess you just need to get a stakehorse and go play him some.
Is that USA low brow logic?

My buddy already took his $$, using a snooker cue. There's some Aussie low brow logic back at ya! :p
 
Huh?

Colin Colenso said:
Is that USA low brow logic?

My buddy already took his $$, using a snooker cue. There's some Aussie low brow logic back at ya! :p


A snooker cue is supposed to be a disadvantage? I never had better cue ball control than when I was using a 12oz snooker stick.

Hu
 
Colin Colenso said:
Is that USA low brow logic?

My buddy already took his $$, using a snooker cue. There's some Aussie low brow logic back at ya! :p

All I'm saying is a little bobbing never hurt anyone. Johnny's one of the nicest pros and a clean solid player. There's a lot greater problems in the pool world than to worry about Johnny's table cleaning. Congratulations to your friend. The only guys that don't get beat are the ones that don't play and the only thing worse than getting beat is not having a game. I bet your friend doesn't want a steady diet of playing Johnny. Every dog has his day.
 
vagabond said:
It is not a new thing.He has been doing that `cotton picking` for mor than 10 years.
By the way how is Johl Younger doing?
Vagabond :cool:
Johl's running a kind of strip bar in Surfer's Paradise last I heard in partnership with Craig Duffy, ex 2 times 3rd in the World Pool Masters. Craig made it very rich with a gambling software company called Tomato.

Johl had mediocre success on the pro-snooker circuit the past few years. He's picked up a couple of UK 9-ball titles recently. Maybe he'll make a comeback to pool, or maybe he's happy enough doing biz. Anyway, up to him...a great talent that's for sure.
 
ShootingArts said:
A snooker cue is supposed to be a disadvantage? I never had better cue ball control than when I was using a 12oz snooker stick.

Hu
Even Johl's cue was 17oz and you could hear the vibrations when he played a strong shot with draw. I doubt your cue was 12 oz. Never seen a cue that light.

Anyway, sooner or later snooker players get a pool cue, even if its a bit lighter and thinner that the usual. It can handle the power shots much better.
 
Colin Colenso said:
Is that USA low brow logic?

My buddy already took his $$, using a snooker cue. There's some Aussie low brow logic back at ya! :p

When Johnny is out of stroke he can be beaten by the lower-tier players like Johl. Just like Efren can, just like Earl can, just like anyone can. The amazing thing is that even though Johnny was out of stroke when he played Johl, he came close to beating him. I hope Johl isn't proud of it. Tell him to be proud when Archer is running racks and racks and finally Johl gets a shot and runs out racks and racks to win the set. I'm sure that's not what happened.
 
That was a Tournament....Anybody may WIN playing anyone in a Tournament....But I bet there isn't no one flying there a z z to ATLANTA to play him any gambling. Because their ain't nobody gotta WIN playing him. At any given moment when he comes to life he will sit you in your chair for rack after rack.
 
RAG said:
All I'm saying is a little bobbing never hurt anyone. Johnny's one of the nicest pros and a clean solid player. There's a lot greater problems in the pool world than to worry about Johnny's table cleaning. Congratulations to your friend. The only guys that don't get beat are the ones that don't play and the only thing worse than getting beat is not having a game. I bet your friend doesn't want a steady diet of playing Johnny. Every dog has his day.
Nicely written RAG, but if we could only discuss the serious problems in the world, there wouldn't be much point coming to this forum.
 
LastTwo said:
When Johnny is out of stroke he can be beaten by the lower-tier players like Johl. Just like Efren can, just like Earl can, just like anyone can. The amazing thing is that even though Johnny was out of stroke when he played Johl, he came close to beating him. I hope Johl isn't proud of it. Tell him to be proud when Archer is running racks and racks and finally Johl gets a shot and runs out racks and racks to win the set. I'm sure that's not what happened.
Oh yeah, my other Aussie buddy Emile Riera knocked out Earl in the same tourney 13-10. Despite having played little 9-ball previously. With Earl sharking like a thief all through the match.

The biggest tourney of their lives and they couldn't rise to the occassion against newbies.

I've watched Johnny Archer play in several matches on video. He knows the game well and breaks very well, but Johl on his worst day is a much finer cueist.
 
LastTwo said:
When Johnny is out of stroke he can be beaten by the lower-tier players like Johl. Just like Efren can, just like Earl can, just like anyone can. The amazing thing is that even though Johnny was out of stroke when he played Johl, he came close to beating him. I hope Johl isn't proud of it. Tell him to be proud when Archer is running racks and racks and finally Johl gets a shot and runs out racks and racks to win the set. I'm sure that's not what happened.

What happenned was Johnny broke and went out nearly every time he broke, including at least 2 golden breaks. (It was alternate). Johl broke and went out less than half his break, but managed to scramble just about every open table through excellent potting.

It was quite clear his potting confidence intimidated Johnny.

That said, had it been winner breaks, I suspect Johnny would have been more able to string racks together, due to his knowledge of the break.
 
never seen a brunswick

Colin Colenso said:
Even Johl's cue was 17oz and you could hear the vibrations when he played a strong shot with draw. I doubt your cue was 12 oz. Never seen a cue that light.

Anyway, sooner or later snooker players get a pool cue, even if its a bit lighter and thinner that the usual. It can handle the power shots much better.

Take a look about halfway down the page or a little further. It was a ten dollar stick with a twelve dollar tip when I shot with one.

http://www.billiardmemorabilia.com/cues.html

It was a finesse stick, neither it or the tip I had on it was designed to hammer balls. The one piece stick was a bit awkward to carry but I did things with a cue ball I haven't been able to do before or since. During a stint away from pool and a divorce it got badly warped and I didn't know how hard another would be to come by so I pitched it. :(

Hu
 
Colin Colenso said:
It was quite clear his potting confidence intimidated Johnny.


It could only be for one reason and one reason only....he had an aiming system!! Now, when are you going to get more advanced and start shooting like a pro instead of a hack with a bottom of the barrel basic way of aligning shots?? :p :D (hell...for that matter...when are you going to get off of the blackboard and wei table and go on a REAL pool table?) :cool:
 
Colin, I agree with you. If you watch the Johnny of old, he was a killer. When I last watched him, he was in that same form.... BUT, maybe he is back to what I would describe as 'paranoid'. Any 'off' sound in the crowd sends him up, then back down, up, then back down. Watch him on tape.. in the old days, he set up, maybe made an adjustment, and bam- center pocket. Now you might watch him, and he gets up off his break about 6-8 times before he is in good position. HE IS STILL ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE TO WATCH. But, I don't like watching him when he has tourette' syndrome- and moves all over the place. He even admitted to changing his pace to a faster one, and he had a huge streak of wins to his credit for that. About the table picking, I do that myself too.. and it lends itself to good rythym, and feeling like the table is yours. I don't do it anywhere near the amount that Johnny does, and he does do it a lot. I like watching people like Sigel, who is probably jittery as hell inside, but on the outside laugh it up. Watch his match with Zuglan. He is chewing gum, and is getting down on the toughest shot of the match, the shot after the break. Someone in the crowd is moving, or passing by. He gets down, ready to shoot, and gets up. He motions them to go ahead and keep moving. All the while he is still focused, and he just gets back down to shoot, no big deal. When you start to get crazy quirks, it's probably time to cut them out of the routine if they are not helpful.
 
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