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it seems the new fad in joint pins are the G10 style, before that, the radial style, etc;

What advantages would the G10 have for the player over all other styles??

What advantages would any joint pin have over others, for the player?

thanks in advance, georgeh
 
georgeh said:
it seems the new fad in joint pins are the G10 style, before that, the radial style, etc;

What advantages would the G10 have for the player over all other styles??

What advantages would any joint pin have over others, for the player?

thanks in advance, georgeh
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This is my personal opinion, but since the joint SCREW, only has one purpose (to hold the 2 halves together), I think there is very little difference what material or size is used. The design of the screw might lend itself to easier or more accurate installation, but a screw is just a screw...JER
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
This is my personal opinion, but since the joint SCREW, only has one purpose (to hold the 2 halves together), I think there is very little difference what material or size is used. The design of the screw might lend itself to easier or more accurate installation, but a screw is just a screw...JER
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I agree, somewhat. I don't like pilots or inserts in joints. I like the feel of the pin into the wood, and a flat faced joint. It's really immaterial to me if the pin is radial, 3/8X10 or what as far as pitch. I use the Radial pin because of the barrel that makes center installation so easy and that the threads have a radius instead of the sharp major on a standard 60 deg cut. There are other pins being made with the alignment barrel now, but not when I first started using the radial. I use a G-10 if I need a weight reduction or balance change from my normal brass Radial. The G-10 is not as strong as a metal pin but it is strong enough as any force that would break a G-10 is would also bend a metal pin, forcing replacement.

Dick
 
The advantages of G10 are ; lightweight and it bends and reasonates like hardwood.
 
I use 3 different materials for pins.....(thread directly into wood shaft)
SS.................34 grams
Titanium.........18 grams
G-10................8 grams

I have a real hard time believing anyone could tell me which pins are in which cues if they were screwed together without them knowing.
There are so many more factors involved in each cue.
I believe they would be guessing only.
Although, I have noticed a distinctly different feel between the metal and G-10 when closing the joint and making the final lock down on it.
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
I use 3 different materials for pins.....(thread directly into wood shaft)
SS.................34 grams
Titanium.........18 grams
G-10................8 grams

I have a real hard time believing anyone could tell me which pins are in which cues if they were screwed together without them knowing.
There are so many more factors involved in each cue.
I believe they would be guessing only.
Although, I have noticed a distinctly different feel between the metal and G-10 when closing the joint and making the final lock down on it.
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Only since you can tell if the root beer in the mug came from a can, bottle or tap.:D
 
I agree Jerry but add that I choose a specific type of 3/8-10 pin mainly to help achieve the final weight and balance of the cue. G-10 is the lightest, and steel the heaviest. I have 3 other choices in between these and that seems to cover it well for me and the guys I work with.

Martin




BLACKHEARTCUES said:
This is my personal opinion, but since the joint SCREW, only has one purpose (to hold the 2 halves together), I think there is very little difference what material or size is used. The design of the screw might lend itself to easier or more accurate installation, but a screw is just a screw...JER
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jazznpool said:
I agree Jerry but add that I choose a specific type of 3/8-10 pin mainly to help achieve the final weight and balance of the cue. G-10 is the lightest, and steel the heaviest. I have 3 other choices in between these and that seems to cover it well for me and the guys I work with.

Martin
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Doesn't G10 give you an option to use rosewood as core dowel instead of just maple?;)
 
JoeyInCali said:
The advantages of G10 are ; lightweight and it bends and reasonates like hardwood.
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Is there some technical data on how the G10 material resonates like hardwoods?

Thanks in advance, georgeh
 
JoeyInCali said:
The advantages of G10 are ; lightweight and it bends and reasonates like hardwood.
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Hi Joey; I tried the G-10 screw 20 years ago, when Joe Gold started using it. For a lighter weight screw, any where in my Qs I use a 3/8-10 aluminum. I always thought that the roughness of the G10 threads might in time, act like sandpaper on the internal female wood threads. Reguardless I prefer the smooth aluminum threads. By the way if the joint is screwed together tight, how can the screw bend?...JER:)
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
Hi Joey; I tried the G-10 screw 20 years ago, when Joe Gold started using it. For a lighter weight screw, any where in my Qs I use a 3/8-10 aluminum. I always thought that the roughness of the G10 threads might in time, act like sandpaper on the internal female wood threads. Reguardless I prefer the smooth aluminum threads. By the way if the joint is screwed together tight, how can the screw bend?...JER:)
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Thanks for the tip.
But I love them radial G10's.
 
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