joss weight bolt

[cribbeecues]

Does anyone have any experience with changing the wt bolt on a joss?
The bumber is screwed in with an 8/32 hex, but when removed there is
a nut looking wt bolt, maybe 1/2 inch head without a lot of room to put
a socket on it, tried a thin wall with no luck. I have not figured out how
to post a pic on here. Maybe I need help with that also. thanx for the help.
cribbeecues

 

[Chopdoc]

Really need a pic. That does not sound like the JOSS weight bolts I know, but I could be wrong.

Anyway:

There is a little icon when you are typing a post. It looks like a little scene of a mountain with the sun in the background. Click that to link to images you have hosted online.

You can host images with a google account in a picassa folder.

You can also upload pics in your album here on AZB and link to them.

If you PM me I'll give you my email address so you can send me pics and I will post them.


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[Renegade_56]

Hi Gregg, I agree with Chopdoc, the weight bolt sounds "aftermarket" to me.

As far as the pics go,,,,,there are multiple ways to do this,,,,,one is by storing pics elsewhere on the net and then embedding links to them. Problem with this is the links seem to get broken frequently,,,,,,I don't like using this method personally, so I usually just use the Attachments Manager. This works well if you have the image stored on your computer. It's a few steps, but very easy once you do it a couple of times. Here is how,,,,

When you have the New Post window open,

-Click on the Paper Clip above the text box. This opens Attachments Manager.
-Click Browse,,,,,and find the image file on your computer.
-Click the file, then click Open, then click Upload. Repeat for each image you wish to insert in the post.
-Click the red X to close attachments Manager
-Place the cursor in the post where you want the image.
-Click the small Down Arrow BESIDE the paper clip
-Click the image filename, and the attachment name will appear in the post at that position.
-When you hit Post Reply, the image will show up wherever it's attachment name is in the new post.

You can move the filenames around in the post easily with copy/paste.

Hope this helps,,,,,,,,

 

[KJ Cues]

No pic necessary, you have an older Joss and that bolt is OEM.
Your socket will work if you turn the OD down where it fits into the recess.

HTHs, KJ

 

[Renegade_56]

No pic necessary, you have an older Joss and that bolt is OEM.
Your socket will work if you turn the OD down where it fits into the recess.

HTHs, KJ

Good info KJ,,,,,,do you know approximately what years Joss used that style weight bolt?

 

[Chopdoc]

Good info KJ,,,,,,do you know approximately what years Joss used that style weight bolt?

I would love to know myself.

And I would love to see a pic anyway since I never saw one like that.



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[KJ Cues]

Good info KJ,,,,,,do you know approximately what years Joss used that style weight bolt?

No Sir, I do not.
I started building in `88 and shortly thereafter I had ocassion to remove one.
I've been a mechanic & machinist all my life.
It wasn't such a giant leap to figure how to modify an existing tool to work.
Mine's based on a 12pt 3/8dr Craftsman socket.

KJ

 

[Chopdoc]

Hopefully we can see a pic of it. I would love to have a pic for my records.



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[Sealegs50]

I am not a cuemaker

I replaced the weight bolt on my 1985 Joss. I don't remember how I removed the old bolt. None of my sockets fit the opening. The bolt head is 9/16". It is a reasonable guess that I used a set of needle nose pliers which do fit. The original bolt was not in so tight that I had much trouble removing it. IIRC, according to Dan Janes, there was more than one size/style of weight bolt. So matching is likely to be a problem.

IMO, the very best solution is to contact Joss, send them the butt, and ask them to replace with the exact weight you wish. They are really nice people. It's not that expensive and worth the effort. I played with my Joss yesterday.

For Chopdoc, enclosed is a picture of my cue butt with the bumper removed.

Greg

 

[cribbeecues]

Thanx Sealegs50! Your pic is exactly what I am dealing with. Customer
doesn't want to spend the $ with joss(shipping, insurance, & repair). He is
not the original owner of the cue. Not a problem replacing the bolt on my
end. As CM's and repairmen we love to deal with a new challenge that
adds to our experience. ? was posted to tap into the vast knowledge
of others on the forum. Looks like I'll be turning down an old socket
to fit and breaking out the soldering iron to break the epoxy lose if it
does not come out easily.
Thanx Renegade for the pic info! Sealegs bailed me out with his pic. It
(pic) was a lot sharper than the one I had taken.
I appreciated all the input from all that responded.

cribbeecues

 

[Chopdoc]

For Chopdoc, enclosed is a picture of my cue butt with the bumper removed.

Greg

Thanks for the pic and year reference! :thumbup:




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[pickngrin]

What you want is a "thinwall 9/16 in. socket".. or, you can contact Dan Janes like I did. He asked me to send him the cue and he changed the weight bolt and even fixed a chip in the finish, all at no charge. All I paid was one-way shipping. Joss is a great company to do business with.

 

[GBCues]

What you want is a "thinwall 9/16 in. socket".. or, you can contact Dan Janes like I did. He asked me to send him the cue and he changed the weight bolt and even fixed a chip in the finish, all at no charge. All I paid was one-way shipping. Joss is a great company to do business with.

At first, I thought the same thing, but if you will go back and read all the posts, you'll see that he did indeed try a thin-wall socket without success.

Gary

 

[bolas]

Does anyone have any experience with changing the wt bolt on a joss?
The bumber is screwed in with an 8/32 hex, but when removed there is
a nut looking wt bolt, maybe 1/2 inch head without a lot of room to put
a socket on it, tried a thin wall with no luck. I have not figured out how
to post a pic on here. Maybe I need help with that also. thanx for the help.
cribbeecues

8/32 screw and some 8/32 nuts

 

[ddcuerepair]

I use a Snap On 1/4" drive, 9/16" deep socket it fits right in with no problem at all.

 

[Chopdoc]

Not all thin-wall sockets are equal.

Typically you will find something like the Snap-On would be more likely to work in tight spaces. That's why it's a Snap-On...:wink:

I would think the 1/4 inch drive sockets would be thinner as a rule as well.



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