Joy Chinese Pool Table
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Going to order one? Good luck. They're almost impossible to contact. I've tried before to ask a question and you have better chance of calling Woke-a-Cola for the recipe to Coke. Chin 8b will never be popular in the US and Joy will never sell more than handful of tables here other than their snooker tables. AFAIK they don't have a dealer in the US. You have to go thru some crazy, long drawn out process to even get one. Are you in the US?
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My club has. They play very well. The slate is extremely thick and the thing is super heavy, with real woods etc..Overall, it plays a lot like a high quality snooker table. The balls roll very quietly and far, because of the thick slate. If you like Chinese 8 ball, I can't imagine you won't be happy with these tables.
I believe it was bought via the web, of course I live in Europe so I suspect any buying info wouldn't be relevant to your situation. The table holds up very well, because of the massive materials. Because it is so heavy, I'd make triple sure that the area you put it in can support the weight. IMO it should be left for at least a couple of days to settle before cloth is put on it to make sure it stays level. That is true of most pool tables, but especially one as massive as this.
I believe it was bought via the web, of course I live in Europe so I suspect any buying info wouldn't be relevant to your situation. The table holds up very well, because of the massive materials. Because it is so heavy, I'd make triple sure that the area you put it in can support the weight. IMO it should be left for at least a couple of days to settle before cloth is put on it to make sure it stays level. That is true of most pool tables, but especially one as massive as this.
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We had one, each piece of slate is about 375lbs, table is built like a tank at almost double the weight of a Diamond. Make sure you have someone that can change the cloth for you locally if you don't do it yourself. Each portion of rail is really heavy for a table mechanic to manipulate and between Colorado and Las Vegas we couldn't find a table mechanic to do the work.
Had communications with a few members of Joy, unfortunately they showed several reasons on why we would never do business with them again and we took a huge loss on selling the table and went back to Diamond.
I will try and say a positive about our experience with the table....
Had communications with a few members of Joy, unfortunately they showed several reasons on why we would never do business with them again and we took a huge loss on selling the table and went back to Diamond.
I will try and say a positive about our experience with the table....
- Plays tough as expected, we spent months trying to get more accuracy on rail shots
- Easy to assemble and disassemble
- Literally in minutes if you have the manpower to lift the slate
- Built extremely well
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Geosnookery
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I’ve only played in one inCanada...in Vancouver. Vancouver has a huge Chinese community. Never seen one in my city.
Joy and Star ‘the’ names in China. Joy is a complete marketing package. They’ve managed to lure Chinese snooker pros and created their own empire. Mark Selby, the recent world snooker champion is a bit of a god in China as he’s friends with Ding. Selby is also Gareth Potts brother-in-law who is the frontman for Joy billiards.
Anyways, I’d certainly get a Joy table if I was serious about the sport of billiards as a pro. It’s where the future is. . That’s Steve Hendry in the centre: they are building on Snooker’s classy image as a sport.
Joy and Star ‘the’ names in China. Joy is a complete marketing package. They’ve managed to lure Chinese snooker pros and created their own empire. Mark Selby, the recent world snooker champion is a bit of a god in China as he’s friends with Ding. Selby is also Gareth Potts brother-in-law who is the frontman for Joy billiards.
Anyways, I’d certainly get a Joy table if I was serious about the sport of billiards as a pro. It’s where the future is. . That’s Steve Hendry in the centre: they are building on Snooker’s classy image as a sport.
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I know it's not the same brand, but SBC bought three Star Chinese 8-ball tables last year:
I believe he sold one on the drive home, maybe he still has one left.
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I believe he sold one on the drive home, maybe he still has one left.
I played some 8ball on one. My opponent was breaking and it seemed in the 3 games we played my stripes ended up along the rails. It is hard to shoot those balls down the rails. Solids were all towards center of table. I asked him how he was racking/breaking to get that result? He replied he had noticed the spreads but wasn't do anything special.
I banked 1 ball table length into a corner pocket. As I said my stripes were along the rails so I tried many cross table banks and never got close. Opponent couldn't bank on it either.
I banked 1 ball table length into a corner pocket. As I said my stripes were along the rails so I tried many cross table banks and never got close. Opponent couldn't bank on it either.
Dumb snooker pockets. If you want impossible pockets cut the pockets square; as in 90 degrees; as in lumber. Now you can bring the aperture down to as tight as you can stand and rail shots still go. Course the OP probably wants the furniture aspect.
Geosnookery
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It’s like paying Snooker. There are excellent Pool players that at first can’t sink a ball. However, once they get some table knowledge, they learn what shots to attempt.
Such as: A ball hit down the rail needs to be hit ‘perfect’ and even then just isn’t going to sink without spin on it to drop it into the pocket.
Fundamental difference is mindset when approaching a table. A Pool player is foremost thinking ‘what shot can I make to sink a ball and clear the table? A Snooker or Chinese eight Player is thinking strategy. They aren’t always exclusive but each has a priority.
A good American Pool player can excel at Chinese 8 ball. Like snooker, skill wins out at a higher percent. A mid level player might take a couple games on an American table against a top player but easily be skunked on a Chinese 8 ball table. Each player is likely to get more visits to the table and that is to the advantage of the better player.
There is one in the basement at Luckys, in Sioux Falls. Played on it for a couple of hours about two years ago.
I have played some snooker so I know a little about pocketing rail shots. I also know that some balls bank easier then go down the rail. Hence I tried banking balls to no avail. I joked I must have hit that first table length bank bad as it is the only one I made
it's fun to watch. standard table 8 ball is childs play for the pro's of today. just watch kaci, melling, chang, svb or shaw. even when darren had the WPS tourneys with 4" pockets it was too easy, ruslan and kaci ran packages like it was nothing.
Pros maybe but i can't see it for regular recreational play. Would take forever. I know its big in China but i don't ever see it getting much play in the U.S. I've watched a fair amount and find it pretty boring myself. It does pay well if you're a top player.
Geosnookery
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I also often try a bank shot as the risk is too high running down the rail to leave my opponent a hanger.
It’s easy to beat even very good Pool players at Snooker until they catch on. Just purposely leave them what are seemingly easy shots on the short rail. Ideally the cueball or object ball an inch or less off the rail. They just can’t resist them.
Good Pool players will do fine at Snooker once they get better at shot selection, It’s like using a compass in the wilderness and trusting it over ‘I thought we came from that direction’....‘Yes, play a safety even though that shot is a no brainer on a Pool table’.
BreakEm187
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I have them for sale here in US.. Our warehouse is in Atlanta. They are great playing tables, they will run you about $10,000 once it’s all said and done but totally worth the investment
Snooker is is the billiards equivalent of squaring off and firing point blank at each other. Point being it's an archaic battle. With those obnoxious jaws, defensive play is retarded simple and more about decorum than pool.
The best use for impossible pockets - even the loose variety showing up nowadays - is for target practice.
The best use for impossible pockets - even the loose variety showing up nowadays - is for target practice.
BreakEm187
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I have 3 available here
Thread 'Brand New 9ft Joy Chinese 8Ball Pool Table For Sale'
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We have one in our room in Toronto. I’m not interested in playing heyball on it but if I was still an active player, I’d love to play one pocket on it. I do not appreciate directional nap though,….a stupid idea.
Players who are having trouble banking on them are maybe not adjusting to flat edged snooker rubber….it‘s not going to react like pool rubber….they bank shorter and you can‘t make the angle spread like you can with pool rubber…..but you can bank shorter by increasing the speed easier than a pool table.