Jumping ... Where to start??

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Problably should do a search and I will when I get home tonight and have more time.

I bought a Predator jump cue and want to start the learning process. Should I start with a lesson so I don't develop bad habits? Or just start hittin' balls??

More specifically, are there any drills to start with?

Thanks,

Russ....
 
Russ,

There's a pretty good tutorial on Tom Simson's website, and he's one of the sponsors here. Of course, he sells Stingers, but it may work for other cues;). Here's a link.

That being said, I'm no jumper. VooDoo Daddy from this forum is a fine jump artist. He taught me three things during his short stay in Michigan. Move in much closer to the cue ball with your body than a normal shot when you intend to jump. Strike right through the core of the cue ball. Last but not least, you won't tear the felt, so strike straight through the core of the cue ball like you're trying to kill something on the other side. You'll jump!...Tom
www.JumpBreak.com
 
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tpdtom said:
Russ,

There's a pretty good tutorial on Tom Simson's website, and he's one of the sponsors here. Of course, he sells Stingers, but it may work for other cues;). Here's a link.

That being said, I'm no jumper. VooDoo Daddy from this forum is a fine jump artist. He taught me three things during his short stay in Michigan. Move in much closer to the cue ball with your body than a normal shot when you intend to jump. Strike right through the core of the cue ball. Last but not least, you won't tear the felt, so strike straight through the core of the cue ball like you're trying to kill something on the other side. You'll jump!...Tom
www.JumpBreak.com
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I learned in about 10 mintues how to do it with a jump cue. Was using a full cue before though, so I had the basics down. What took me longer to learn was how to jump balls that are very close to the cueball. Find a dart stroke works better for that. The main thing is to have a very light grip on the cue, at least that was the main thing for me.
 
At first, use just under 45 degrees and try to strike the spot where the cue ball is resting on the cloth (ie. right through it as stated previously). Use center ball, or just below center ball (as seen when looking down on it obviously).

Make sure you have a very hard tip, like phenolic, and use a sharp jab stroke with a loose wrist. You don't have to hit it hard per se, just quick.

Search youtube for instruction on jumping by Ralph Souquet
 
Cool........Thanks for the tips.

I already watched Tom's You Tube stuff. I also can jump with my regular cue, but want to much more efficient and consistent at it.

Russ....
 
When I help people learn to jump I start with jumping a piece of chalk. Start about 1 1/2 feet away and place an OB near a pocket to create a str8 in shot. Work on hitting this shot with top/middle/draw. Move the chalk closer and then start adding more pieces of chalk. This is an easy drill that also minimizes damage to equipment and jumping the CB off the table.
 
Put a small piece of paper...smaller than a postage stame is fine...I just rip off a piece of napkin and place it under the CB.

That won't affect the jump at all and will prevent friction burns on your table.

Depending on your height, you will have to abandon the traditional stroke where your forearm and upper arm are directly above the cue and develop a smooth, repeating SIDE ARM stroke...where your cue is OUTSIDE the plane of your stroking arm.

DO practice the dart method that allows many to launch the CB at a steeper angle. (many can do it fine without the dart stroke)...BUT the dart stroke allows for much less FORWARD cb travel (for me) so I can jump to OBs that lie near a rail without jumping the CB off the table.

Like...put blocker at table center..the CB a couple of balls away on the center string and the OB in front of the jaws. For me with a "normal" stroke to get the CB launched that steeply, I risk jumping the CB off the table, but with the dart, it just pops up with very little forward speed...makes the OB and just sits there.

Good luck.

Jim
 
jumping with a full cue

I have a Varney jump break cue and can jump just about anything when i break the cue down...well in the apa i cant break it down but i cant jump with a full cue. Any help in technique would be appreciated...i read that some of you jump with a full cue....how does it differ from a shorter cue to a longer cue?
 
quitecoolguy said:
I have a Varney jump break cue and can jump just about anything when i break the cue down...well in the apa i cant break it down but i cant jump with a full cue. Any help in technique would be appreciated...i read that some of you jump with a full cue....how does it differ from a shorter cue to a longer cue?
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A bunch of the better APA players have me make them a VERY light 57" break cue....then jumping full cue is extremely easy.;)
 
thanks for that reply kevin....does the current weight of my Varney have some drawbacks when trying to jump with it as a full cue...it jumps so damn good apart..that i find it hard to believe that that magic cuts off as a full cue..i want to believe it me and my technique..i end up not getting any lift from the cue ball as a full cue...thought about hitting the cue ball harder..but not really a solution.
 
Its much harder to jump full cue with traditional weights. I've found it near impossible with 21-22oz...yet I jump fine full cue with 17oz. It seems the cues mass doesn't let it rebound out of the way quick enough. The trick is to have a full cue set up like your j/b, except with a total weight of 14-15oz. Then you'll have full cue jump magic!;) Kind of an APA secret weapon.:D
 
av84fun said:
Put a small piece of paper...smaller than a postage stame is fine...I just rip off a piece of napkin and place it under the CB.

That won't affect the jump at all and will prevent friction burns on your table.

Depending on your height, you will have to abandon the traditional stroke where your forearm and upper arm are directly above the cue and develop a smooth, repeating SIDE ARM stroke...where your cue is OUTSIDE the plane of your stroking arm.

DO practice the dart method that allows many to launch the CB at a steeper angle. (many can do it fine without the dart stroke)...BUT the dart stroke allows for much less FORWARD cb travel (for me) so I can jump to OBs that lie near a rail without jumping the CB off the table.

Like...put blocker at table center..the CB a couple of balls away on the center string and the OB in front of the jaws. For me with a "normal" stroke to get the CB launched that steeply, I risk jumping the CB off the table, but with the dart, it just pops up with very little forward speed...makes the OB and just sits there.

Good luck.

Jim
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PS: I just watched the SVB vs. Mike Davis BCA match and SVB used the exact "side arm" technique I mentioned above. Drilled the shot too!

You might want to check that out if the match is replayed in your area.

Regards,
Jim
 
Yes!! He nailed that jump shot and got perfect shape!!!!!


That's what I'm talkin' about.......:D


Russ.......
 
poolhustler said:
Problably should do a search and I will when I get home tonight and have more time.

I bought a Predator jump cue and want to start the learning process. Should I start with a lesson so I don't develop bad habits? Or just start hittin' balls??

More specifically, are there any drills to start with?

Thanks,

Russ....
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Russ, start with the cue ball close to the rail. The extra elevation will help you develop a jump stroke, which by the way is basically the same as a normal stroke you would use level to the table. The main problem most individuals have when they start trying to jump with a cue, or when they begin trying to masse the cue ball. Is that they attempt to hit the cue ball straight up and down, or directly on top instead of at a 45 degree angle into the balls center.

Oh and by the way, do not practice on a nice table, find the shittiest bar table around town, this way you will not damage anything.;) After a few thousand shots you will be good to go!!!!!!:D

Good Luck, and keep stroken
 
Best tip I ever got about jumping... dip your front shoulder as low as you can comfortable. You get that should down, you are in the basic correct alignment and the jump shot just got a heck of a lot easier.
 
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poolhustler said:
Problably should do a search and I will when I get home tonight and have more time.

I bought a Predator jump cue and want to start the learning process. Should I start with a lesson so I don't develop bad habits? Or just start hittin' balls??

More specifically, are there any drills to start with?

Thanks,

Russ....
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why practice jumping ? you have many years to go just learning how to play top pool. you are starting backwards. what dufus started you on the wrong road ?
 
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