Jumping with my LD

[haystj]

OK,,, so I know I am going to get killed with the "just use the search function, this has been covered many times".... so those people can feel free to swing away.

How in the heck can I jump the cue ball with my new LD shaft? I could do it quite easily with a traditional shaft.

Does anyone know the reason why this is the case? Assuming it isn't just me?

I seriously need some help.

 

[peppersauce]

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[Eagleshot]

I have the same issue. Always assumed that the lowered end mass allowed the shaft to flex more. This reduces the transfer of energy through the cue ball.

Just my guess.

 

[Colin Colenso]

How in the heck can I jump the cue ball with my new LD shaft? I could do it quite easily with a traditional shaft.

Does anyone know the reason why this is the case?

It could be that a higher elevation is needed with an LD cue to avoid double hitting, from slate back to tip.

I base this theory on the additional squirt of a high deflection cue pushing the CB away from the tip, albeit from the back of the CB. The extra few degrees may make the normal jumping angle insufficient, hence you may need to elevate a few more degrees that you've been used to.

Colin

 

[spliced]

Jack up a little more and hit a little harder. I have no issues getting the cueball a little airborne with LD shafts.

 

[haystj]

thanks! makes me a bit nervous to jack up higher and hit harder, but I'll try it.

 

[hang-the-9]

LD shafts do not jump well at all, maybe that's why people started using jump cues so much lately. You just can't jump with your playing shaft anymore since so many people use and LD shaft. It's not just you.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

LD shafts do not jump well at all...

It's not just you.

It's a well known problem without a well known explanation (yet).

I wonder what kind of test could give us clues about the reason? I'd like to try some tests but don't know where to start. Any suggestions?

pj
chgo

 

[336Robin]

Air Hog

It's a well known problem without a well known explanation (yet).

I wonder what kind of test could give us clues about the reason? I'd like to try some tests but don't know where to start. Any suggestions?

pj
chgo

I did some trading and got an Air Hog jump cue. Its basically hollow and I find it jumps very differently needing more elevation. I dont favor it over a normal shaft with G10 by any means. I just wouldnt go there honestly.

 

[ctyhntr]

Does the Predator Air, jump cue, use the same lower deflection technology and construction as other Predator LD products?

 

[hang-the-9]

Does the Predator Air, jump cue, use the same lower deflection technology and construction as other Predator LD products?

I don't think I've ever seen a Predator rep post here, but OB has an LD shaft AND a jump cue. Maybe Royce will chime in :idea2:

 

[RBC]

This is a phenomenon that I don't have a good answer for either. As long as I've been around, LD shafts don't jump well.

About 4 years ago I really started to work hard on a good jump cue combination. My goal was to incorporate some of our LD characteristics into a good performing jump cue. It just makes sense that cue ball squirt makes for a big problem on many jump shots. Being that you're elevated so much, the aiming line is tough to follow and it's pretty easy to be off a little or miss the center of the cue ball a little. The resulting squirt sends the cue ball way off line. Especially if the jump cue has extra weight in the tip. Extra weight it pretty common in jump cues. It makes it easier get over the interfering ball.

So, our goal was a jump cue that jumped as easily as any, but also was lower in cue ball squirt than the others. It makes for a jump cue that's not only easy to get over the interfering ball but also helped with those errant direction shots.

It's been a long tough road, but we were able to work out a good compromise. Using our familiar laminated maple ferrule we were able to keep the tip end mass down well below the other jump cues. And, by working with the shaft tapers, butt diameters and tapers as well as the over all weight, we were able to come up with a good combination. Of course, the tip is a huge factor as well.


So, you can have a little reduced tip end mass and still jump the cue ball. But on your normal length cue it's going to be real tough.

Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com