When beginning to learn, you can limit cloth damage by using a small piece of spare cloth beneath the ball (e.g., see NV 7.13).Dawgie said:I just started to practice jumping. I use a jump cue with a phenolic tip. What I noticed is that using this type of tip has caused small tears in the cloth. Has anybody else had this problem with the phenolic tip?
Or maybe I'm doing something wrong.![]()
Zims Rack said:IMO, You shouldn't be hitting the cloth when jumping, unless you're only a ball distance between CB and OB.
Zim
I agree. See HSV B.3 for super-slow-motion examples at various cue elevations.Zims Rack said:IMO, You shouldn't be hitting the cloth when jumping, unless you're only a ball distance between CB and OB.
Zims Rack said:IMO, You shouldn't be hitting the cloth when jumping, unless you're only a ball distance between CB and OB.
Zim
longhair said:It's actually not that easy to get the CB to jump and get the tip of your jump cue to the cloth on the same stroke. A jump cue doesn't weigh enough to keep going much after contact, and if you force it through (like a masse stroke) you won't get good jump action. You might be slipping off the bottom of the ball, but I'm guessing that the tears you see are from the cueball, not the tip. If you practice jump shots many times in one spot on the table you will do noticable damage pretty quickly even with a perfect stroke.
FYI, HSV B.3 shows and describes all of these effects. I don't talk about the burn marks on the cloth (from the ball being driven into the table), but you can see them at the end of the clip.longhair said:It's actually not that easy to get the CB to jump and get the tip of your jump cue to the cloth on the same stroke. A jump cue doesn't weigh enough to keep going much after contact, and if you force it through (like a masse stroke) you won't get good jump action. You might be slipping off the bottom of the ball, but I'm guessing that the tears you see are from the cueball, not the tip. If you practice jump shots many times in one spot on the table you will do noticable damage pretty quickly even with a perfect stroke.
On some types of cloth (old thin simonis in particular) excessive force directed downward at the cloth can cause it to get a little "impact hole." This typically occurs when a lot of force is directed to a very small area on the cloth - the threads are just mashed until they break. I don't consider these tears per se, rather, they look like a very small hole with frayed edges.Dawgie said:I just started to practice jumping. I use a jump cue with a phenolic tip. What I noticed is that using this type of tip has caused small tears in the cloth. Has anybody else had this problem with the phenolic tip?
Or maybe I'm doing something wrong.![]()
Well I'll be a monkey's uncle! I guess a jump stroke does push the cue through after contact. Thanks for posting that, I learned something new again. That keeps happening to me.dr_dave said:FYI, HSV B.3 shows and describes all of these effects. I don't talk about the burn marks on the cloth (from the ball being driven into the table), but you can see them at the end of the clip.
Regards,
Dave
Actually, the amount the cue follows through after contact (if it does) depends on the weight of the jump cue, the stroke type (conventional vs. dart), the tightness of the grip (it should be loose), and how far below center the CB is struck. I'm glad you found HSV B.3 interesting. FYI, HSV B.5 shows a close-up of both a conventional and dart grip for jump shots.longhair said:I guess a jump stroke does push the cue through after contact. Thanks for posting that, I learned something new again. That keeps happening to me.