JJ's signature image has been removed. It was a simple bit of code that he got from another site. I understand how it would be a little scary to users though, and I have asked him to not use it anymore.
Mike
Mike
Junior Players Not Welcome in Atlantic City
- Thread starter TeamCastillo
- Start date
98% of this post was Deleted using Magic Eraser.
Doug
( btw, I don't think Ernie should hold any tournaments at ACB )
.
Doug
( btw, I don't think Ernie should hold any tournaments at ACB )
.
Last edited:
Thank you for sharing this with all of us.I would like to offer my apology for how your family was treated.I would hope that is not the normal for the pool world.I grew up playing this game I started at the age of five and never had any kids of problems like this,and I have played all over the U.S.I for one will never go back to his room.
Mr/Ms Castillo,
Very sorry for you and your son.
Please be aware that many, many people in this business are scum, plain and simple.
The fact that you accompany your son to events is most excellent, I would HIGHLY suggets continuing this practice for as long as possible.
Cheers
Very sorry for you and your son.
Please be aware that many, many people in this business are scum, plain and simple.
The fact that you accompany your son to events is most excellent, I would HIGHLY suggets continuing this practice for as long as possible.
Cheers
Thank you for sharing your story with the pool world. It showed me several things:
1. Ernie could use better management skills by:
A. Publicising his policy for underage kids
B. Cluing in his staff and TD on his aforementioned policy
C. Letting people know about the policy when they call in
D. Making it fair by enforcing it equally to all underage players
(or allowing both players to remain, as players.)
E. Taking you and your husband aside to break the news (or better yet allowing you all to stay!
)
F. Offering something in return for your inconvenience, as it is his fault that you even showed up.
G. Not resorting to cursing
H. Being generally more friendly and cognizant of future impacted business and bad publicity.
2. You are great parents. Encouraging your son and offering him many opportunities to grow in the game, while participating alongside him as a family is something he will treasure forever. Going to bat for him while giving him the values you have instilled in him shows what great parents you are. Your son also knows he can count on your love and support.
3. You have a remarkable young man! Showing more class than Ernie when your heart is breaking takes an incredible amount of courage and I commend him. He will run into a few guys like Ernie over his pool career, but I dare say that most players and owners have a good heart and want to advance the future of our sport. I hope he sticks with it and has an illustrious career.
Again, thanks for sharing and by spreading the word, you bring more awareness to situations like this. Good luck with your son's future pool endeavors.
1. Ernie could use better management skills by:
A. Publicising his policy for underage kids
B. Cluing in his staff and TD on his aforementioned policy
C. Letting people know about the policy when they call in
D. Making it fair by enforcing it equally to all underage players
(or allowing both players to remain, as players.)
E. Taking you and your husband aside to break the news (or better yet allowing you all to stay!
)F. Offering something in return for your inconvenience, as it is his fault that you even showed up.
G. Not resorting to cursing
H. Being generally more friendly and cognizant of future impacted business and bad publicity.
2. You are great parents. Encouraging your son and offering him many opportunities to grow in the game, while participating alongside him as a family is something he will treasure forever. Going to bat for him while giving him the values you have instilled in him shows what great parents you are. Your son also knows he can count on your love and support.
3. You have a remarkable young man! Showing more class than Ernie when your heart is breaking takes an incredible amount of courage and I commend him. He will run into a few guys like Ernie over his pool career, but I dare say that most players and owners have a good heart and want to advance the future of our sport. I hope he sticks with it and has an illustrious career.
Again, thanks for sharing and by spreading the word, you bring more awareness to situations like this. Good luck with your son's future pool endeavors.
Last edited:
let him know
I, too, am sorry to learn of the unfortunate incident.....I don't know if it will help, but why don't you send your post, in its entirety, to this Ernie fellow, and maybe he will see what an ass he was.....I mean, especially after he invited you and yours to his place; he may have forgotten but this would serve to inform him and remind him of his stupidity and short sightedness...
Good luck to you and yours.....
I, too, am sorry to learn of the unfortunate incident.....I don't know if it will help, but why don't you send your post, in its entirety, to this Ernie fellow, and maybe he will see what an ass he was.....I mean, especially after he invited you and yours to his place; he may have forgotten but this would serve to inform him and remind him of his stupidity and short sightedness...
Good luck to you and yours.....
Barbara said:
You know, it could be a township thing. Especially in a town like A.C.
I remember when Maidhof had to go to court to get some obscure law overturned in Drexel Hill regarding young teens, in which a lot of the parents came out and showed their support at the meeting.
I also remember back in the day when Tacony got the liquor license, and when Corey and myself pulled up one day for the weekly scratch tourney and they told him that he couldn't play and had to leave. So we packed it up and turned around and left. Later, they then came to an agreement about where on the floor he was allowed to be before the owner put that wall up. I think the owner after talking with some local law people made the exception because everyone knew Corey wasn't there to drink, but i never did find out if it was legal permission, or if he just allowed him to play.
jay helfert said:
Jay,
Thanks for the kind words!
MD
JAM said:Thank you for posting your experience at the Atlantic City Billiards.
I sent you a PM (private message) and look forward to your reply!
JAM
JAM,
I hope you got my reply, and thanks very much for your support. Our son isn't discouraged in the least, and in fact was joking about the incident with the owner of Rockaway last night (thanks Bob!).
I hope we'll run into you in person some time...
MD
Da Poet said:I agree, I'm having a tough time seeing any possible "other" side on this one on any level.
You're much cooler than my mom. My mom made me play violin.
.
Poet,
Thanks for the support and the laugh...
MD
42NateBaller said:
Thanks David - we appreciate the gesture. If you'll be going through the northern NJ area please feel free to PM - we can certainly give you some tips on getting around.
MD
crosseyedjoe said:
Joe,
It's not an AC rule, it's the room owner's rule. And as I discovered just yesterday, the rule as posted on the website is that nobody under 16 is allowed in *after 6 PM*. Since it was 1:30 in the afternoon at the time, I don't get it.
There's really no rational explanation, but it's ok - we're moving on.
MD
SUPERSTAR said:
Thanks very much for the support and for sharing your opinion...
MD
NoBull9 said:
It won't, and thank you.
MD
9Ball_JJ said:
9Ball,
Thanks for sharing your similar experience. Rules are an important part of getting along together, but they are in the end generalities, and should be assessed for their applicability rather than blindly adhered to. Otherwise they can do as much bad as good.
Thanks...
MD
I'm glad someone knew that it's just a little script trickery and that it's harmless. I got a pm about it from our admin saying that it was scaring people and for me to change it, but he had already deleted my signature. I changed it and I didn't mean for anybody to get scared from it.ScottW said:I knew someone would get bent over that little thing the first time I saw it.
It's only YOU that sees YOUR info. When I or anyone else reads that fellow's posts, the bit at the bottom shows me MY info, them THEIR info.
It's just a little scripting trickery, is all. It's harmless.
And as far as me staying on topic...I already posted my .02 above.
DJ,
Thanks for the compliment on my writing - I see it comes from one with the qualifications to judge.
Thanks also for your thoughtful reply. You make many good points, and I agree with you in many areas. From some things you said, I believe what I wrote gave you the impression I'm a lot more conservative and/or overprotective than I am. On the contrary, both my husband and I share your perspective that exposure to all facets of life helps prepare kids for adulthood. Our son isn't really shielded from much. Rather we try to give him appropriate explanations for what he sees - even if the best we have is "everybody thinks differently and you'll have to make up your own mind." That goes for life inside and outside pool.
And he does have a lot of opportunities to learn about life within the context of the pool community. I never intended to imply that the darker sides of the sport don't exist - simply that they're probably not what we want to promote. We're at all different places at all different hours, and sometimes it *is* quite late before we come home. Our son sees a lot. My husband is very worldly and very active in teaching him (and me, sometimes) to keep our eyes open to the realities around us. It goes, again, to preparing him for adulthood when he has to navigate these things on his own.
At 12, though, he doesn't have to do that yet. I don't intend to fight my son's battles for him - or to battle anyone just at the moment - but in this case I feel comfortable with the decision to speak out on his behalf. I just said my piece, and I'm done with it. Your idea of having him speak in person is an interesting option depending how he feels about it. But we won't pursue it further. He has too many positive opportunities to worry about this one negative instance any further. When the time is right, one day perhaps he'll want to address it but that will be his choice.
Thanks again for your support and your thoughtfulness...
MD
Thanks for the compliment on my writing - I see it comes from one with the qualifications to judge.
Thanks also for your thoughtful reply. You make many good points, and I agree with you in many areas. From some things you said, I believe what I wrote gave you the impression I'm a lot more conservative and/or overprotective than I am. On the contrary, both my husband and I share your perspective that exposure to all facets of life helps prepare kids for adulthood. Our son isn't really shielded from much. Rather we try to give him appropriate explanations for what he sees - even if the best we have is "everybody thinks differently and you'll have to make up your own mind." That goes for life inside and outside pool.
And he does have a lot of opportunities to learn about life within the context of the pool community. I never intended to imply that the darker sides of the sport don't exist - simply that they're probably not what we want to promote. We're at all different places at all different hours, and sometimes it *is* quite late before we come home. Our son sees a lot. My husband is very worldly and very active in teaching him (and me, sometimes) to keep our eyes open to the realities around us. It goes, again, to preparing him for adulthood when he has to navigate these things on his own.
At 12, though, he doesn't have to do that yet. I don't intend to fight my son's battles for him - or to battle anyone just at the moment - but in this case I feel comfortable with the decision to speak out on his behalf. I just said my piece, and I'm done with it. Your idea of having him speak in person is an interesting option depending how he feels about it. But we won't pursue it further. He has too many positive opportunities to worry about this one negative instance any further. When the time is right, one day perhaps he'll want to address it but that will be his choice.
Thanks again for your support and your thoughtfulness...
MD
cueball1950 said:
Mike,
We're giving that serious consideration
MD