Just announced--johnny vs ignacio!

Well I for one thought JA could muster up his skills for yester yr apparently not ,, obviously not a real contender for the MC team

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Don't feel bad, you're wrong about lots of stuff on here.

Maybe you and Satori can go cry in a closet about Archer's loss.
 
So let me get this straight. They are playing a race to 25, 10 ball, call shot-call safe. With one of the slowest players ever.

If this is streamed, are they going to pay me to watch this snooze fest? I'll set the line at 6.5 hours.

Was it under or over?
 
Another person that must not watch sports.

Thank you for wanting to keep pool where it's at.

So you play a guy a race to 13 for 500....once. You don't think there's a big chance of an evenly made match among amateurs being decided by rolls? You okay with getting stuck behind s ball on a miss, hill hill, for the cash?

I know most of you guys won't bet water is wet. If you did bet high, you'd understand that called shot called safe is a better game.
 
I know the match is already over, but does anyone know if it was recorded for future viewing?
 
So you play a guy a race to 13 for 500....once. You don't think there's a big chance of an evenly made match among amateurs being decided by rolls? You okay with getting stuck behind s ball on a miss, hill hill, for the cash?

I know most of you guys won't bet water is wet. If you did bet high, you'd understand that called shot called safe is a better game.

If you're going to get upset about something like that, then simply put, you are an idiot when it comes to managing your bankroll.

Would you also get upset if your opponent called a safety, and the CB rolls off, but ends up freezing you to another ball. What if you called safe, and banked a ball to the other end, but it accidentally goes in off another ball? Would you be okay with that?
And how about if your opponent calls the 10 ball, but hits it bad, but it goes multiple rails and into the pocket he called.

The fact is, that Johnny and Jeff could have played under almost any rules, and Jeff still would have Horse #@#%@ him. That can be said about almost any match up. Winners aren't determined by the rules.
 
So you play a guy a race to 13 for 500....once. You don't think there's a big chance of an evenly made match among amateurs being decided by rolls? You okay with getting stuck behind s ball on a miss, hill hill, for the cash?

I know most of you guys won't bet water is wet. If you did bet high, you'd understand that called shot called safe is a better game.-->See BeiberLvr's post #85 ..He is right on target!

I would venture to say, I have probably bet more money accidentally, than you have on purpose! (even allowing for inflation :o).. Your attitude, that all gambling outcomes, are determined by good/bad rolls, is almost laughable! The outcome is usually very predictable, before the coin is flipped! :rolleyes:

Thats because a huge percentage of all pool wagers, are won or lost during pre-game negotiations..A very small number of these, wind up in hill/hill situations for that very reason!..Sounds to me 'young man' like you need to work on improving your 'matching up' skills, rather than worrying about getting a bad roll, now and then!
(ie; in other words, don't be like Obama, or you may rarely even get to see 'hill/hill') ;)

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I would venture to say, I have probably bet more money accidentally, than you have on purpose! (even allowing for inflation :o Your attitude, that all gambling outcomes, are determined by good/bad rolls, is almost laughable! The outcome is usually very predictable, before the coin is flipped! :rolleyes:

Thats because a huge percentage of all pool wagers, are won or lost during pre-game negotiations..A very small number of these, wind up in hill/hill situations for that very reason!..Sounds to me 'young man' like you need to work on improving your 'matching up' skills, rather than worrying about getting a bad roll, now and then! (ie; or you may rarely get to see hill/hill) ;)

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Dick is absolutely right when we played 2 foul and ahead sets the best player ALWAYS won.
And no it didn't take days to play ahead sets.
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Jeff Ignacio is one of the best if not the best money player in the world at the moment.:thumbup:
Gotta' give Ignacio a lot of credit for having the stones to walk into that den of vipers and take on the owner.
There was a game somewhere in the mix where Archer ran the balls, then had the 10 ball off the short rail about 2 feet from the corner pocket and the CB frozen to the adjacent long rail......he completely dogged the 10.
From that point on it was all downhill for J.A. His game fell apart from that moment.
Sad.
 
There are quite a few... Dennis carlo deluna lvc acis bubwit and about another handful of up and comers... Of course bata busty and warren...i think ignacio is like the rest at just a hair below dennis amd carlo... But they can and will compete w
Ith anyone... Jeff is two years removed i believe from losing to carlo in the china open final...
 
Gotta' give Ignacio a lot of credit for having the stones to walk into that den of vipers and take on the owner.
There was a game somewhere in the mix where Archer ran the balls, then had the 10 ball off the short rail about 2 feet from the corner pocket and the CB frozen to the adjacent long rail......he completely dogged the 10.
From that point on it was all downhill for J.A. His game fell apart from that moment.
Sad.

Jerffery was stealing. You can get away with a lot, like that.
 
If you're going to get upset about something like that, then simply put, you are an idiot when it comes to managing your bankroll.

Would you also get upset if your opponent called a safety, and the CB rolls off, but ends up freezing you to another ball. What if you called safe, and banked a ball to the other end, but it accidentally goes in off another ball? Would you be okay with that?
And how about if your opponent calls the 10 ball, but hits it bad, but it goes multiple rails and into the pocket he called.

The fact is, that Johnny and Jeff could have played under almost any rules, and Jeff still would have Horse #@#%@ him. That can be said about almost any match up. Winners aren't determined by the rules.

What's the most money you've lost off an opponents lucky roll?

When you lose like that or win like that it cheapens the game. All the other nonsense you and SJD wanna bring up is just that...nonsense.

When you and I play I'll give you whatever you like for rules plus the breaks....cause I know how guys like you play.
 
I know most of you guys won't bet water is wet. If you did bet high, you'd understand that called shot called safe is a better game.
I think I've been around the block once or twice...and I think I've been around a lot of high action... I don't recall many gambling sets using call shot/call safety rules. And I think I've been around as much high dollar action as anyone. Maybe.

Can. You remind me which high betting sets were done this way?

Freddie <~~~ getting old, but can't remember any
 
I think I've been around the block once or twice...and I think I've been around a lot of high action... I don't recall many gambling sets using call shot/call safety rules. And I think I've been around as much high dollar action as anyone. Maybe.

Can. You remind me which high betting sets were done this way?

Freddie <~~~ getting old, but can't remember any


The question is did you ever see a big set decided by a few bad rolls? Guy shoots into a corner pocket and it hits both facings and goes across into the other pocket. Guy misses and sticks opponent where they cant make a hit and they give up ball in hand. There's no reason to have to play that way. I choose not to wherever possible.
 
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In my opinion, the rules meant very little in this match for Ignacio. He rarely misses what he aims at so lucky rolls are not an issue. I don't think he missed over 5 balls in the entire match. I think I saw Johnny give it back to him twice.

Maybe it would make a difference on an amateur level but with these guys, not an issue...
 
The question is did you ever see a big set decided by a few bad rolls? Guy shoots into a corner pocket and it hits both facings and goes across into the other pocket. Guy misses and sticks opponent where they cant make a hit and they give up ball in hand. There's no reason to have to play that way. I choose not to wherever possible.

Nothing wrong with voicing an opinion CE..But when you're way outnumbered by the large majority of sensible, knowledgable posters, maybe its time to re-think your position!..Jes' sayin'! :rolleyes:

PS...Either that, or tell us how to stop bad 'rolls' from happening occasionally!...Now that would make you a very rich man! :sorry: :p
 
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I think I've been around the block once or twice...and I think I've been around a lot of high action... I don't recall many gambling sets using call shot/call safety rules. And I think I've been around as much high dollar action as anyone. Maybe.

Can. You remind me which high betting sets were done this way?

Freddie <~~~ getting old, but can't remember any

How about the set you and me played for the hotel bill?

Oh wait, never mind... that wasn't call safety... but we did stay at the Holiday Inn...

Ignacio up 3 points, and Johnny down 3 points to 789 and 783, respectively...
 
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