Just bought my first table

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Oofgeni_Stalev

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I just got a 9 ft Rasson Accura installed. It was used and I drove 3.5 hours to see it, played on it, tested every rail, pictured it in my house, and absolutely loved it. It really played great. The table mover made it clear that when the table settles, I’m gonna have to find a different mechanic to level it since he lives 3.5 hours away.
After the table is set up we roll a couple of balls to make sure it’s leveled. Everything rolled true and I was happy to have my table finally set up. After a few hours of playing, I noticed the cue ball going down table pretty fast and going up table kind of slow. The ball would roll down table significantly when cueing it side rail to side rail.
I just want to know if this is simple enough for me to do. Anyone have any advice on how to level this table? Or should I call in the local table mechanic? I’m in Austin, TX.
 
Oofgeni_Stalev said:
I just got a 9 ft Rasson Accura installed. It was used and I drove 3.5 hours to see it, played on it, tested every rail, pictured it in my house, and absolutely loved it. It really played great. The table mover made it clear that when the table settles, I’m gonna have to find a different mechanic to level it since he lives 3.5 hours away.
After the table is set up we roll a couple of balls to make sure it’s leveled. Everything rolled true and I was happy to have my table finally set up. After a few hours of playing, I noticed the cue ball going down table pretty fast and going up table kind of slow. The ball would roll down table significantly when cueing it side rail to side rail.
I just want to know if this is simple enough for me to do. Anyone have any advice on how to level this table? Or should I call in the local table mechanic? I’m in Austin, TX.
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Whan I got my table installed, the mechanic said that if I needed to I could adjust the levelers on the bottom of each leg but not to mess with the ones under the slate. Persanally I'd try bringing up the two feet on the low end of the table just a bit, see if it helped.

Nothing wrong with calling a mechanic either.
 
I’ve leveled my own a few times using the feet. Without a level. I just roll balls on it until it’s rolling true enough. I’ll have a mechanic do it when the cloth is replaced. But works just fine. You might have to adjust the higher side also though. Sometimes raising the lower side as dendweller states can mess with the high side slightly and get you a little slant. The best way to do it is to make sure none of the other legs move when you raise one.the less you raise it to adjust the better. Learned that one by trial and error. But mine is also on concrete and can slide a bit while adjusting it.
 
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Oofgeni_Stalev said:
I just got a 9 ft Rasson Accura installed. It was used and I drove 3.5 hours to see it, played on it, tested every rail, pictured it in my house, and absolutely loved it. It really played great. The table mover made it clear that when the table settles, I’m gonna have to find a different mechanic to level it since he lives 3.5 hours away.
After the table is set up we roll a couple of balls to make sure it’s leveled. Everything rolled true and I was happy to have my table finally set up. After a few hours of playing, I noticed the cue ball going down table pretty fast and going up table kind of slow. The ball would roll down table significantly when cueing it side rail to side rail.
I just want to know if this is simple enough for me to do. Anyone have any advice on how to level this table? Or should I call in the local table mechanic? I’m in Austin, TX.
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Congrats on the new table! Where is the table located in your house? First floor? Second Floor? Basement?

If it were me, I'd hire a competent mechanic (even an installer) with machinist levels to dial it in. You can certainly do it yourself but it could turn into a rabbit hole and there's a possibility you make it worse. If you have at least one machinist level and you think you can do it, go for it. Just remember Newton's Third Law of Motion: For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.
 
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If you don't have to adjust the slate levelers, and just the legs, yes it is fairly simple with the right level as was suggested. Just remember what Rexus hinted to, and that is when just leveling the legs it's better to creep up on it as what you do to one corner will affect to a small amount the other corners.
So as an example, say you were 3 lines off on the corner you decided to start leveling, I would only adjust it half that or possibly two lines instead of the three it was off and then check everything again to decide what to adjust next.
It really is quite simple, but if you adjust all the way first on your first leg adjustment, when you adjust the other legs your first adjustment will be off. It's easier than it sounds, just go slow and work your way up on it. For the cost of say a 8" Starrett level, about $200 it will pay for itself the first time you use it.
 
Oofgeni_Stalev said:
I just got a 9 ft Rasson Accura installed. It was used and I drove 3.5 hours to see it, played on it, tested every rail, pictured it in my house, and absolutely loved it. It really played great. The table mover made it clear that when the table settles, I’m gonna have to find a different mechanic to level it since he lives 3.5 hours away.
After the table is set up we roll a couple of balls to make sure it’s leveled. Everything rolled true and I was happy to have my table finally set up. After a few hours of playing, I noticed the cue ball going down table pretty fast and going up table kind of slow. The ball would roll down table significantly when cueing it side rail to side rail.
I just want to know if this is simple enough for me to do. Anyone have any advice on how to level this table? Or should I call in the local table mechanic? I’m in Austin, TX.
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I don't have a table as nice as yours but I did level mine, bought a 2ft level from Home Depot, measure in multiple spots and make SMALL adjustments, a half a turn, OR LESS at a time and check in multiple spots as you are leveling, even if you don't get it perfect you can probably make it better until you find your table mech., good luck and CONGRATS !!!!!!!!!!!
 
What I do when my table is not leveled is have a friend lift it and I stick a stack of coasters under it. I proceed to remove or add more coasters if needed.

Pool table? Probably call a mechanic.
 
Congrats. If you try to DIY it will be a good learning experience for the future.. if it does not go right call a mechanic then. Good luck .. have fun with table.
 
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Congrats on your new table! You or anyone else could probably level it fine. Me on the other hand could take a chair with a slight wobble and have a chair with no legs when I’m done, good luck!
 
rexus31 said:
Congrats on the new table! Where is the table located in your house? First floor? Second Floor? Basement?

If it were me, I'd hire a competent mechanic (even an installer) with machinist levels to dial it in. You can certainly do it yourself but it could turn into a rabbit hole and there's a possibility you make it worse. If you have at least one machinist level and you think you can do it, go for it. Just remember Newton's Third Law of Motion: For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.
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1st floor
 
muskyed said:
If you don't have to adjust the slate levelers, and just the legs, yes it is fairly simple with the right level as was suggested. Just remember what Rexus hinted to, and that is when just leveling the legs it's better to creep up on it as what you do to one corner will affect to a small amount the other corners.
So as an example, say you were 3 lines off on the corner you decided to start leveling, I would only adjust it half that or possibly two lines instead of the three it was off and then check everything again to decide what to adjust next.
It really is quite simple, but if you adjust all the way first on your first leg adjustment, when you adjust the other legs your first adjustment will be off. It's easier than it sounds, just go slow and work your way up on it. For the cost of say a 8" Starrett level, about $200 it will pay for itself the first time you use it.
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I will attempt adjusting the legs tomorrow once I get a slim enough wrench. The one I have won’t fit. The opening that leads to the bolt is like a 3/8” wide
 
I’m gonna try and adjust it myself. Does anyone know a reliable mechanic in the Austin, TX area? Just in case this goes horribly wrong.
 
Don’t mess with the slate. Just adjust the legs with a basic level . I also take a ball and drop it right on the edge of the rail so it bounces off and rolls across the table. That takes the spin off and gives you a straight roll. If your still not happy call a mechanic but whats it going to hurt to adjust the legs a bit and try yourself.
 
Is it on thick carpet? I'm just surprised it settled in a couple hours.

I'd try it myself also at the legs. I've had to touch up my GC4 a few times after sliding it around my house.

This is the level most mechanics use. Starrett 98-12. You can find them used on FB Marketplace for about $100 range. I have a bit of a tool addiction, and I think I have 3 or 4 of them now, ha ha. Def worth having if you own a pool table, IMO.

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Having a table is the first dream.

There are many to have in billiards.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Is it on thick carpet? I'm just surprised it settled in a couple hours.

I'd try it myself also at the legs. I've had to touch up my GC4 a few times after sliding it around my house.

This is the level most mechanics use. Starrett 98-12. You can find them used on FB Marketplace for about $100 range. I have a bit of a tool addiction, and I think I have 3 or 4 of them now, ha ha. Def worth having if you own a pool table, IMO.

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Nah no carpet. I don’t think it settled. I think it was installed this way and I didn’t notice when the mechanic was still here. He was having trouble with one of the corner castings and wasn’t able to get it down fully flush like the rest of them. After I called him out on it he seemed to get agitated but ended up fixing it. I was stressing out and just wanted the table done. Right after he left I noticed the roll 😭
Totally my fault and I should’ve checked the roll more carefully before he left. Lesson learned.
Need to find a good mechanic in Austin, TX
 
Oofgeni_Stalev said:
Nah no carpet. I don’t think it settled. I think it was installed this way and I didn’t notice when the mechanic was still here. He was having trouble with one of the corner castings and wasn’t able to get it down fully flush like the rest of them. After I called him out on it he seemed to get agitated but ended up fixing it. I was stressing out and just wanted the table done. Right after he left I noticed the roll 😭
Totally my fault and I should’ve checked the roll more carefully before he left. Lesson learned.
Need to find a good mechanic in Austin, TX
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Ah, then that's a different story. If the table was never leveled well, you might need both the legs and the slate to be leveled. Might need a mechanic after all.
 
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Why is that? The table is just rolling down table. All 3 slates are rolling in the same direction.
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Well your first post said the table was level when the mechanic left, and got unlevel 2 hours later, due to settling.

Your next post to me said the table was never leveled when the mechanic was there, and you didn't notice until immediately after he left. That's very different than your first post.

If the second is true, then it seems the mechanic did a poor job all around, and its very likely the slates are all messed up, and would need to be individually adjusted at the leveling screws underneath each slate.

If the first is true, then that's most likely settling, which can probably be fixed with the legs only.

Still, you have nothing to lose at this point moving the legs, IMO. Ps, I'm not a mechanic, just a player with a table and level myself.
 
Oofgeni_Stalev said:
Why is that? The table is just rolling down table. All 3 slates are rolling in the same direction.
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The table could also be swaybacked with the middle slate low relative to the ends. Until all balls roll straight you can't be sure the table is both flat and level. Or, it could be humpbacked.
 
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