just my observation

Klopek said:
Mark, I don't think there's anything wrong with your way of thinking, but I do think you may be misinterpreting some of what's gone down. From my oberservation, every single person was hoping that the IPT would work out in the end.

Some folks were very skeptical given KT's checkered past and they felt it important to voice their concerns. They had a hard time believing KT could turn over a new leaf and were frustrated that so many were being grifted by a proven conman once again. These are the folks that have been referred to as "Doommongers" or "Prophets of Doom" by KT himslef.

Some folks took a more positive "wait & see" attitude but always had that nagging feeling that the ceiling could come crashing down. I imagine this would be the camp most players were from. Hoping but fearing the dream could end.

Then there were the folks who believed every sweet promise KT made and beat down any and all naysayers. These are the folks that felt KT was for real this time and the mistakes were just the stutter steps of a new pool tour finding its way. They felt that everyone was attacking the IPT unjustly. These were the usual folks throwing out the prophet of doom scarlet letter.


Well, fast forward a few months. Everytime the IPT released another announcement about an announcement it seemed to jostle these three groups up. The announcements were ambiguos and confusing to say the least, depending on how each person interpreted their meaning. Let the insults and bannings begin.

The "naysayers" felt it was proof that KT was sliding back into old habits and the IPT supporters felt it was proof KT was honoring his debts. The actual players, the "wait and see" folks were silent until recently, so who knows where they stood... during the beginning of the end.

When the going got really rough, a lot of the naysayers stopped posting because it was like beating a dead horse. The end seemed obvious and only sour-pusses take pleasure in "I told you so's". This silence could be interpretted as flip-flopping, but wrongly so.

The suporters started to realize they were holding onto a wax rope so they started to go to the dark side. This isn't flip-flopping, it's just realizing that the smell of rotting flesh might mean death was near.

Each time a new announcement came out, various folks in "transition" didn't know how to feel so they walked down the middle of the road and assumed the 'wait and see" attitude.

In the end, the fans, players and businesses all got screwed. We're all in this brutall disappointment together. Hope this helps explian the madness.:)

I could never sum it all up this eloquently. You hit the nail on the head!

Positive rep for you!

Russ
 
Most of us don't want the IPT to fail. We have friends who are members, friends that have tried to qualify, and both. I was very excited about it from the beginning. I was so excited, and so supportive of the IPT, that I ignored little tidbits of information here and there that just didn't seem to add up. Alot of us did. Believe me when I say that I wasn't digging for a body, that's the last thing I wanted to find in all honesty.

Now all of a sudden, everyone is slammed with all of this garbage that is coming from Trudeau. Him and Deno are damned liars. Mark, I like you and have alot of respect for you, so don't take this the wrong way. But ALOT OF PEOPLE put their lives on hold for this. My friend made it to the 3rd round in Reno. He really needs the money he is owed, because of travelling expenses, and he put work aside for the IPT. He devoted alot of time and money for it. Now all of a sudden I am seeing that just a few days after Trudeau said to "POP THE CHAMPAGNE", my friend not get paid anything, or maybe 1/3 of 1/3, or whatever. THIS PISSES ME OFF!! Can you imagine how my friend feels? I mean shit, man, THIS IS BULLSHIT.

Again, I never dug for bodies, but now a body is lying on my doorstep. Do you think everyone should just sit back and say "ok, just relax, it's not like Trudeau has done anything wrong"........the guy flat out LIED TO EVERYONE. He has screwed some players over pretty badly financially.

I'll be damned if I'm gonna sit back and not voice my opinion about it. **** that. If this billionaire who said that he doesn't care about the money, and that he will take care of his players out of HIS OWN POCKET, will go back on his words, and now wants to get out for 1/3 or less than what he owes, I hope he goes to court and loses every penny he has. And if Mike Sigel and Deno Andrews are in on it, I hope the same happens to them too.

The fact is, the IPT is DONE. Anyone who can't see that is blind. There are a few players that have come out ahead. But keep in mind, that's just a FEW. There are alot that have come out behind, and that does matter.

Also it kind of makes me wonder about Mike Sigel. I wonder how he feels about everything. If wonder if he realizes that he will be known as the great champion who quit, and then came back to pool briefly, to **** up pool and alot of it's players.
 
Russ Chewning said:
I could never sum it all up this eloquently. You hit the nail on the head!

Positive rep for you!

Russ

IPT aside Russ, COME HOME SAFE!
 
cuetechasaurus said:
Most of us don't want the IPT to fail. We have friends who are members, friends that have tried to qualify, and both. I was very excited about it from the beginning. I was so excited, and so supportive of the IPT, that I ignored little tidbits of information here and there that just didn't seem to add up. Alot of us did. Believe me when I say that I wasn't digging for a body, that's the last thing I wanted to find in all honesty.

Now all of a sudden, everyone is slammed with all of this garbage that is coming from Trudeau. Him and Deno are damned liars. Mark, I like you and have alot of respect for you, so don't take this the wrong way. But ALOT OF PEOPLE put their lives on hold for this. My friend made it to the 3rd round in Reno. He really needs the money he is owed, because of travelling expenses, and he put work aside for the IPT. He devoted alot of time and money for it. Now all of a sudden I am seeing that just a few days after Trudeau said to "POP THE CHAMPAGNE", my friend not get paid anything, or maybe 1/3 of 1/3, or whatever. THIS PISSES ME OFF!! Can you imagine how my friend feels? I mean shit, man, THIS IS BULLSHIT.

Again, I never dug for bodies, but now a body is lying on my doorstep. Do you think everyone should just sit back and say "ok, just relax, it's not like Trudeau has done anything wrong"........the guy flat out LIED TO EVERYONE. He has screwed some players over pretty badly financially.

I'll be damned if I'm gonna sit back and not voice my opinion about it. **** that. If this billionaire who said that he doesn't care about the money, and that he will take care of his players out of HIS OWN POCKET, will go back on his words, and now wants to get out for 1/3 or less than what he owes, I hope he goes to court and loses every penny he has. And if Mike Sigel and Deno Andrews are in on it, I hope the same happens to them too.

The fact is, the IPT is DONE. Anyone who can't see that is blind. There are a few players that have come out ahead. But keep in mind, that's just a FEW. There are alot that have come out behind, and that does matter.

Also it kind of makes me wonder about Mike Sigel. I wonder how he feels about everything. If wonder if he realizes that he will be known as the great champion who quit, and then came back to pool briefly, to **** up pool and alot of it's players.
Cuetec! Very well spoken. You might actually get some positive rep points for this one! :eek: :D
 
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