Just Spoke To Johnny Archer-cool story about what he is doing

JAM said:
When I first met Keith -- well, that's a story in and of itself. I sure as heck wasn't looking to get me a boyfriend, and I had been out of this pool racket for 20 years or more.

He was traveling with Jose Parica and Cliff Joiner. What a motley road crew. They had just left the DCC in Louisville and were coming to Maryland for the Capital City Classic. It was in January. Me being at this tournament was a fluke. I hadn't seen a pool table in so long. It was cool seeing my old pool buddies there, though.

Keith didn't have any ID. After everybody left town, Marcus Chamat had to put up his visa for Keith to get a hotel room in Baltimore. Oh, there's a good story there, too, but it's one that will be in Keith's book, if it ever gets finished. ;)

I was so fully of enthusiam when we first began the tournament trail, but everywhere Keith and I traveled, folks kept coming up to me saying, "Wow, I don't know what you've done for Keith, but he sure does look good. And he's behaving so nicely." :D

He must have been hell on wheels, my Keith. :o

JAM
This is a great story JAM. You've done wonders for Keith and like Jay says Keith has a lot of good years left to terrorize the pool world. I have 3 of Keith's matches on Accu-stats (Buddy Hall and 2 with Jose) from the US Open the year Keith finished 3rd and I enjoy watching them a lot. Keith beat Buddy and Jose in the first match and he's such an entertaining player to watch. I hope to see you both at the Open this year.

James
 
Thanks for sharing!

One of the players there, Ken Escano, started very
young. He and his dad would always find
the time to join the tournaments that
i and my friend organize for our pool club in Makati City.

All I ever needed to do was send him an SMS and
more often than not, he and his dad will make
the travel from Laguna to Makati for the competition.

Last time I saw him was about two years ago when
I sponsored him for one of the billiards competitions
held in Efren's Magic pool hall (Makati CIty). He really
did play very good pool! And I kid you not!

Hope he's doing well in the Mandaluyong Cup - the
tournament that Johnny Archer also joined.

And before I forget, congratulations on your 4,000th post!

:)



And congratulations on your 4000th post!

:)


Fatboy said:
He is playing in a tournment in the PI, he is in the losers side he lost his 3rd match I think he said 9-7. He said he is playing good but the jet lag on the 3rd day got him, he has another match in 4 hours from now. One guy he played was 17 years old and never missed a ball, he made one saftey error the whole set, Archer wins 9-7, how good is Johnny hitting them???


Johnny said "I aint ever seen anything like it, there are 50 players here, I aint ever seen before and none of them miss, I mean ever miss" with his heavy Georgia accent. He continued to explane it to me that these guys were green as could be and all "Played like Champions"<----his exact description of the players. "They only made mental errors due to lack of experience". He went on and on about how things had changed there over the past 15-20 years since he has been going there to play. I asked him "50 guys you never saw before?" he said "At least". There wasnt one person of the 64 who wasnt a top notch caliber player. I thought that was interesting, he said in the past there would still be a few soft matches here and there at all the tournments, not now he said he was looking at alot of the players not just his draw he said.


This tournment wasnt a Puiat(SP?) production-the guys that Efren has worked with for ever-sorry I cant spell that right either, it's a new group and he thought it was their first tournment that he played in. He said they took great care of him and everything is top notch, they take good care of him there. the fans have been great and lots of them too. Its nice to see a player from America get treated with respect-not a bad check.


He briefly mentioned he is excited about the pool school with Earl too. And asked why wasnt I there in Phoenix. I was suppost to go a couple weeks ago in Phoenix but I couldnt, my back and work got in the way. I dont know whats up the next one or what plans are, its not my business , but he mentioned that he is looking foward to it, and hopes I can go to the next one, I dont know their schedual or mine, i want to. I like Earl alot, and wish them both the best on that plan, what ever it is it will be good.


I asked his permission to make this post as I thought it was interesting about how the pool scene is in the PI is. Must be something in the water for all these guys that are 17 years old playing so good. I asked him if they were like him when he was their age and he said"you hit the nail on the head Fatboy, they are green and full of talent but make mental errors cause they just havent played that much". Which left me to wonder how the hell can someone play so good without playing so much??? I think its in the water.

Its amazing talking to him, he has a huge pool room, a beatiful family, a pro career, travels the world, a pool school with Earl. Wow he has alot of things going on, and he can still play a little ;). Amazing to say the least.

It made my day when he called.I'm glad he said it was cool to share our conversation online. He reads AZ sometimes too!!! Wow this is #4000 post for me.
 
ABall said:
You are totally wrong about Ron. He is anything but an "ignorant jerk." I think his point for asking that was that the expenses to travelling to the PI are going to be a major consideration for going over there, and then Archer has to play all these champions there. You need to chill out!! :mad: :confused:
-Alex

This thread got my attention before my first cup of coffee and I was off kilter and off base and flat out wrong posting the way I did. I apologize.
 
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Nike & Buick sponsors Tiger Woods!

JimS said:
I think it's an insult to ask how the trip was paid for.

Jim, I was just trying to give credit to those few guys out there like Fatboy that have been considerate enough to sponsor a few players in major pool tournament events. Since our sport has very few sponsors those that do help I feel need to get credit for their contribution. A good word of appreciation will often not go unoticed and hopefully others may benefit from the very few sponsors we have in the game we all love.

I realize some sponsors would prefer to remain unknown but to those that do help I would like them to know I appreciate what they are doing for our sport.

I far as Johnny traveling abroad he has done that on numerious occasions, but it is very expensive, and I was asking if he was invited to the Phillipines and possibly if his trip was being paid for another country, the Philipines?

Jim, as far as your insult comment, Nike has sponsored Tiger Woods for years along with many well known basketball players. I guess that should not be public knowledge or an insult should we ask Tiger about his sponsors. I am sure if you asked Tiger about Nike or his Buick sponsorship he would have only good comments about their financial support, or just maybe he would knock anyone out who should ask?

Jim, where in the world are you coming from? Our sport is hurting for sponsors. I tried to help our sport when the IPT Tournament first got started I sent personal e-mails to the IPT Tour indicating I would be glad to get on the telephone and solicit Corporate America for needed sponsorships for the new Tour, however, all of my e-mails went unanswered. Initially, Kevin Tradeau wanted to be the only sponsor, and as you can see now that was his BIGGEST mistake for the Tour failing.

Jim, whether you like it or not we need sponsors, and most sponsors will come aboard if they are appreciated and get some recognition of their contribution.

I just now, this second, re-read the tread, and see that you had some coffee and I am sorry if I may have offended you before you had your coffee. I accept your apology, now lets play some pool and find some sponsors so we can all make some money!
 
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Honestly, I don't know where I was coming from this morning... but it weren't any place I want to go back to. I apologized once and I will again. Sorry. I was wrong... way wrong.
 
Ron Cook said:
Jim, I was just trying to give credit to those few guys out there like Fatboy that have been considerate enough to sponsor a few players in major pool tournament events. Since our sport has very few sponsors those that do help I feel need to get credit for their contribution. A good word of appreciation will often not go unoticed and hopefully others may benefit from the very few sponsors we have in the game we all love.

I realize some sponsors would prefer to remain unknown but to those that do help I would like them to know I appreciate what they are doing for our sport.

I far as Johnny traveling abroad he has done that on numerious occasions, but it is very expensive, and I was asking if he was invited to the Phillipines and possibly if his trip was being paid for another country, the Philipines?

Jim, as far as your insult comment, Nike has sponsored Tiger Woods for years along with many well known basketball players. I guess that should not be public knowledge or an insult should we ask Tiger about his sponsors. I am sure if you asked Tiger about Nike or his Buick sponsorship he would have only good comments about their financial support, or just maybe he would knock anyone out who should ask?

Jim, where in the world are you coming from? Our sport is hurting for sponsors. I tried to help our sport when the IPT Tournament first got started I sent personal e-mails to the IPT Tour indicating I would be glad to get on the telephone and solicit Corporate America for needed sponsorships for the new Tour, however, all of my e-mails went unanswered. Initially, Kevin Tradeau wanted to be the only sponsor, and as you can see now that was his BIGGEST mistake for the Tour failing.

Jim, whether you like it or not we need sponsors, and most sponsors will come aboard if they are appreciated and get some recognition of their contribution.

I just now, this second, re-read the tread, and see that you had some coffee and I am sorry if I may have offended you before you had your coffee. I accept your apology, now lets play some pool and find some sponsors so we can all make some money!
I understand what you are saying with the sponsor thing but remember Nike and Buick are PUBLIC companies (along with the other companies that sponsor him) and have to disclose their financial information. Eric (Fatboy) is an individual and does not have to disclose anything to anyone. imo.

BVal
 
I agree with you Bval, and I respect Eric and what he is trying to do for pool very much. Maybe I should have asked him in a private message as opposed to the Forum about Johnny?

Keep up the good work Eric, and thank you Bval for making the Corporate sponsorship clarification.
 
jay helfert said:
Why am I not surprised? Like Ron said, this is the one way these kids have from escaping a life of poverty. They start very young, as soon as they can hold a cue. And play day and nite. Yes, no school, just the school of hard knocks. And it's true, there's always a bet. Maybe very small by our standards but significant to them.

They know that if they can win tournaments and become well known, they have a "chance" to get a visa, and travel abroad. Most of these kids will never leave the PI. It's very difficult to get a visa. Notice, only filipino champions seem to make it over here. Last time I was there, I played a couple of youngsters. One kid (about 18) rarely missed a ball, but had no clue about playing safe in Eight Ball. He quit after a few games and turned me over to the owner of the pool room (Pool Fusion), a Chinese-Filipino man. He was an excellent player, better than me. But I still held my own. I play good in spots like that, always have. I got out some nice racks and made him think twice. :)

You're right there on the money Jay.
In relation to your post this article came out.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=117784

I don't necessarily agree that they should drop out of school,
but hey some of them are very successful even without enough
formal schooling.

Pinoy dropouts use billiards as passport to success

Unless you?re a master cue artist or an established superstar that tours the globe for international meets, billiards won?t likely be a lucrative sport for you.

But for three Filipino high school dropouts, it was billiards that became their passport abroad.

Ruben Cullar, 22, was only able to finish first year high school. Now, he manages a billiard center in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

He admitted being hooked by pool games while he was still in school. This was the reason why he neglected his studies.

Cullar, however, said that failing to have a formal school degree didn?t stop him from going abroad.

The former dropout said that he has found that success has overshadowed his past failure because of his focus and enjoyment of the game.

Cullar?s friend, 23-year-old Roel "Iking" Aclao, said he started hanging around pool halls at 16. After that, he was employed to man a billiards shop in Cagayan de Oro for two years.


"Hanggang sa pakiramdam ko maganda-ganda na tira ko, pumunta na ko'ng Maynila," he said.

He said that before going to Manila, he became a billiard champion in the provinces at 17.

After years of working in Manila, he went to Bahrain to work at pool halls until his transfer to Saudi Arabia.

"Hindi na rin ako nagsisisi, kasi ito na ang buhay ko eh. parang tulad nina Efren ["Bata" Reyes], ?yung ganun na rin nung mga bata pa sila," said Aclao.

Paul John "PJ" Ortega, 24, has a similar background. He is now working in Saudi Arabia to finance his brother?s studies.

Ortega won pool titles in Bacolod City and Iloilo before working abroad. He landed third place at a billiards meet in Abu Dhabi last year.


"Ako na mismo ang nagdesisyon na 'di na ko mag-aaral. kasi nakita ko na may asenso ako sa bilyar. sinuportahan ako ng magulang ko, sabi nila kung ano ang gusto mo, nasa likod mo lang kami," he said.

Cullar, Aclao and Ortega are considered as strong contenders every time there are all-Filipino tournaments in the Middle East.

But despite the victories they have reaped, they conceded that education is still important.

They added that they are saving up to prioritize the education of their future chidlren.
 
I hate to be the bearer of bad news on fatboy's thread but Johnny Archer didn't survived the onslaught from these young and hungry tigers, and was sent to the showers early by these young upstarts who plays jam up everytime. About 80% of the field are amateurs, and most of them are in their teens or just in their early 20s.

There's a live feed for this tournament (Madaluyong Cup) and the video quality is the best that I've seen, better than Sopcast or TVU. They also have an archive (10 pages) of matches from the 2006 World Pool Championships. All you have to do is register for free to watch the live feed or the archived matches. Knowing the time of the match/matches for the live feed is another matter though...

http://www.rayasports.com/content/view/218/91/
 
gopi-1 said:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news on fatboy's thread but Johnny Archer didn't survived the onslaught from these young and hungry tigers, and was sent to the showers early by these young upstarts who plays jam up everytime. About 80% of the field are amateurs, and most of them are in their teens or just in their early 20s.

There's a live feed for this tournament (Madaluyong Cup) and the video quality is the best that I've seen, better than Sopcast or TVU. They also have an archive (10 pages) of matches from the 2006 World Pool Championships. All you have to do is register for free to watch the live feed or the archived matches. Knowing the time of the match/matches for the live feed is another matter though...

http://www.rayasports.com/content/view/218/91/

I guess this and Johnny's report to Fatboy proves that Jay wasn't exaggerating about the numbers of top, unsung, Filipino players.

JoeyA
 
gopi-1 said:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news on fatboy's thread but Johnny Archer didn't survived the onslaught from these young and hungry tigers, and was sent to the showers early by these young upstarts who plays jam up everytime. About 80% of the field are amateurs, and most of them are in their teens or just in their early 20s.

There's a live feed for this tournament (Madaluyong Cup) and the video quality is the best that I've seen, better than Sopcast or TVU. They also have an archive (10 pages) of matches from the 2006 World Pool Championships. All you have to do is register for free to watch the live feed or the archived matches. Knowing the time of the match/matches for the live feed is another matter though...

http://www.rayasports.com/content/view/218/91/

So the LIVE semifinals will be shown May 11, Sunday at 3 am to 6 am US EST tomorrow morning. I have to sleep early tonight so I can wake up at 3 am tomorrow Sunday. BTW, who are the final 8 or 4 players for tomorrow's matches?
 
f210 said:
So the LIVE semifinals will be shown May 11, Sunday at 3 am to 6 am US EST tomorrow morning. I have to sleep early tonight so I can wake up at 3 am tomorrow Sunday. BTW, who are the final 8 or 4 players for tomorrow's matches?

Now, that's a real diehard pool fan, I tell you! :D

I usually wake up at 3:00 a.m. normally, so I may just join you! :o

JAM
 
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