Just what is Phenolic?

(A square is a rectangle, but all rectangles aren't squares.)


Fred

ahh I disagree a square is not a rectangle and no rectangle is a square. Don't know about the rest of your post but I think you need a better example.:thumbup:
 
ahh I disagree a square is not a rectangle and no rectangle is a square. Don't know about the rest of your post but I think you need a better example.:thumbup:


I am not sure what you are refering to but here is the defintion of a rectangle:

A rectangle is a four-sided polygon (a flat shape with straight sides) where every angle is a right angle (90°).

Also opposite sides are parallel and of equal length.

Example: A square is a special type of rectangle.


http://www.mathsisfun.com/definitions/rectangle.html
 
Soooo....should the rule state; no tip can be made of a non-leather material? I feel that if the rule states "phenolic" as opposed to "non-leather" there will be challenges, arguments, and loop-holes. I can see the conversation now....a player talking thermoset resins to the ref. :withstupid:
 
ahh I disagree a square is not a rectangle and no rectangle is a square. Don't know about the rest of your post but I think you need a better example.:thumbup:


Um, no. Cornerman stated it correctly.

Kelly

<edit> I failed to see IZ's post before I made mine.
 
As a nitpick, phenolic is a thermoset. But all thermosets are not phenolics. (A square is a rectangle, but all rectangles aren't squares.)

G10, G7, G11 are glass-filled epoxy resins, not phenolic. So, are they banning G10 because they think it's a phenolic (which it isn't) or because it is made from a thermosetting resin and the thermosetting process (which it is)? Silicone rubber is also a thermoset. The difference in material is night and day. So, they better have some kind of parameter clarification.

I think they better get their definitions and intentions squared away or else they're creating loopholes. If I miscue and my ferrule hits the cueball, am I banned since most ferrules are thermosets? On the break, the cueball gets slammed into another phenolic ball of equal hardness (think: diamond cuts diamond). Surely that causes a million times more damage than jump tips. But, apparently, breaking will be banned, too. But, that's their call.


Fred


For that matter, both are parallelograms, but parallelograms don't have to be a rectangle or a square. :wink:

Back on topic...thanks for the expert clarification on phenolic, Fred.


Eric >C+ in geometry
 
For that matter, both are parallelograms, but parallelograms don't have to be a rectangle or a square. :wink:


Eric >C+ in geometry

If a parallelogram is not a rectangle or a square, doesn't that make it a trapezoid?
 
If a parallelogram is not a rectangle or a square, doesn't that make it a trapezoid?

A parrallelogram has 2 pairs of parallel sides, a trapezoid only has one pair of parallel sides.

Hey, why are you picking on the C+ geometry student?? :)


Eric >threadjacker extraordinaire
 
According to Picone website, the white diamond tip is NOT a phenolic tip and meets BCA requirements. I'm not sure when the site was updated or how current their reference to the rules are.

http://www.piconecues.com/id4.html

All I know is that the white diamond tip is awesome and I haven't damaged any of my cue balls using it. Does anyone know it's exact composition?

Eric
 
Wow. It does sound like White Diamonds would be excluded from the BCAPL ruling, if everything it says on the Picone website is true. Per the website:

"White Diamond tips are a multi-layered tip. Made from a specially selected fiber, they go through an 11 step process before becoming a finished tip.

The "Picone White Diamond tip" is not a phenolic tip. Phenolic resins are hard and brittle and although they do make the ball jump as well as break hard, can be difficult to glue and very prone to miscues.

The Picone White Diamond tip is not harmful to balls or equipment, and meets B.C.A. requirements for competition."


Hmmm, maybe I'll try one.
:p
 
According to Picone website, the white diamond tip is NOT a phenolic tip and meets BCA requirements. I'm not sure when the site was updated or how current their reference to the rules are.

http://www.piconecues.com/id4.html

All I know is that the white diamond tip is awesome and I haven't damaged any of my cue balls using it. Does anyone know it's exact composition?

Eric

I have an email from Picone that says his tips are still legal. Not sure who he talked to or how he verified it, but that is what he said.
 
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