Kaci, pro pool and prize money

banged up said:
David, you didn't just move the goalposts on the league's profits—you completely moved them on player salaries too.
The Old Narrative You Are Relying On:
The old talking point was that WNBA players make next to nothing and the league is just a subsidized charity case.
The 2026 Reality:
Under the historic new Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA), the entire pay structure completely fundamentally shifted:
  • The Salary Cap Pool: Exploded from $1.5 million per team in 2025 all the way up to $7 million for the 2026 season.
  • Average Player Salary: Has officially surged past $580,000.
  • The Baseline Minimum: Even a rookie coming right out of college now commands a $270,000 baseline minimum.
Your Double Standard on Goalposts:
First, you claimed the league shouldn't exist because it loses money. Proven wrong.
Then you shifted to "well, individual teams lose money."
Now you are trying to lean on the outdated myth that they make "next to nothing".
The Desperate Pivot Back to Pool:
And now, right on cue, you suddenly try to pivot the entire conversation back to pool's economy—which is completely irrelevant to what either of us were actively debating! You realized your WNBA facts were completely dead, so you ran back to a completely separate topic to find a safe zone.
A business does not multiply its employee payroll cap by nearly 500% in a single calendar year if it is a failing enterprise facing extinction. You are trying to fight 2026 financial balance sheets using 2018 talking points you heard on TV. It is a completely different world now. Changing the subject won't hide the scoreboard. Take the L and move on.




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And as soon as the ghetto succeeds in driving the golden goose out the league will plummet right back to irrelevancy and brokedness.

Hope these girls save some money because hard times are one player leaving away from returning.

Most people still can't name ten WNBA players or five teams. I know I can't and don't care to learn about them.
 
overlord said:
I've been in rooms when super stars of the game show up and the folks drinking beers and banging ball have no idea who they are.......

To sell content you have to have stars........
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we did once.

minnesota fats

willie mosconi

steve mizerack

all three names were common to the general public and part of some conversations.
absolutely no present pool players are known to the general public, and no conversations are about pool.

the ingredient lost is character.
 
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Back ... to pool.

Aleksa Pecelj talked about pay on DogginIt. Like all pros he wishes the sport paid more. He said finishing second in Arizona basically covered his expenses for the year and and that gave him some relief.

He said he doesn't take certain shots early in tournaments to make sure he is not ousted early, thereby missing out on at least some money. I'd gather a lot of players are conservative like that. Playing safeties instead of going for it.
 
changing your game based on those parameters is a losing way to proceed. as it cuts your total chances of getting in the money,

shows a poor understanding of how to play.
 
David in FL said:
I get it, you like the WNBA. Good for you. But try to understand my post in reference to this freaking thread.

Whatever pittance they get paid, why is it that the NBA pays its players a LOT more than the WNBA? Why does professional golf, baseball, football?

Again, it shouldn't be that difficult to understand.
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pay in most endeavors is based on your productivity. and that relates to how much money you save or bring in.

in sports it is your money value to the owners. and that money ultimately mostly comes from the spectators spending. and the more viewers the more money all get paid.

women's and youngsters sports do not get as many viewers so the participants and owners similarly make less and rightly so.
 
BMC361 said:
They need to put pool in the Olympics, summer or winter.
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That's what I am talking about! It was a dream when I was a kid back in the 70's and could see an occasional game on the Wide World of Sports. My first exposure to live Professional Pool was at Skinny Bob's a few years back at the Texas Open. Now I am fighting for my grand daughter to have a chance to play for Olympic Gold! She is 2!
 
maha said:
changing your game based on those parameters is a losing way to proceed. as it cuts your total chances of getting in the money,

shows a poor understanding of how to play.
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Texas Hold'em players play slow early to be around in the end. No money in an early out. I am still more of a banger but am learning the Art of Defense. I had a girl take me to school on it a couple of years back!
 
jbart65 said:
... He said he doesn't take certain shots early in tournaments to make sure he is not ousted early, thereby missing out on at least some money. I'd gather a lot of players are conservative like that. Playing safeties instead of going for it.
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I think that's the wrong mindset. In each single game, your goal is to win the game. That is irrespective of the score, or what has happened to the draw and schedule. Win this game. The strategy -- safety, tough shot, play for safe later -- does not change unless you feel some psychological factor is at play.
 
TwistedTexasStyle said:
Texas Hold'em players play slow early to be around in the end. No money in an early out. I am still more of a banger but am learning the Art of Defense. I had a girl take me to school on it a couple of years back!
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false. the winning players do no such thing. anything that deviates from your best winning strategy percentage wise, costs you your chances.

the more money you have near the end the better your chances of collecting. and the easy money is lost early on with tougher money later in tournaments. beating the worst players is far more effective. old wives tales in gambling keeps the losers being losers.
 
maha said:
we did once.

minnesota fats

willie mosconi

steve mizerack

all three names were common to the general public and part of some conversations.
absolutely no present pool players are known to the general public, and no conversations are about pool.

the ingredient lost is character.
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all i've read and seen about mosconi and minnesota fats indicates they were polar opposites and that mosconi, while (unlike fats) an incredible player, had the charisma of a damp rag
 
nine_ball6970 said:
As far as the US Open, you must stay in the hotel to register. Texas has lots of players who would rather not stay at the hotel due to being local. It is possible you don't have to if you live within a certain distance of the venue but I haven't heard the outcome for that.
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Too bad locals don’t have a place to solicit out-of-towners to stay in the local’s reserved room for a discounted price, maybe split the room fee so it’s half of what both would spend. The locals pay only half and get to sleep in their own bed.
 
nine_ball6970 said:
As far as the US Open, you must stay in the hotel to register. Texas has lots of players who would rather not stay at the hotel due to being local. It is possible you don't have to if you live within a certain distance of the venue but I haven't heard the outcome for that.
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For the US Open in Atlantic City, New Jersey players were allowed to stay at home. I think it was within a certain radius.
 
if you are a pro and have to skimp on where you sleep or what you eat. you are in the wrong profession.

and if in any job you need to improve your lot in life.
 
mosconi while not full of charisma was very out spoken, and in the spotlight of the average person more often. so pool was in it as well.

but he maybe was third of the three.
 
maha said:
mosconi while not full of charisma was very out spoken, and in the spotlight of the average person more often. so pool was in it as well.

but he maybe was third of the three.
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either way, in my eyes much preferable to the fat man. if i want craic i'll watch a proper comedy show
 
Only the elite will eat...no matter the payouts. Kaci's little brother has more potential than Eklant at this point.
 
maha said:
we did once.

minnesota fats

willie mosconi

steve mizerack

all three names were common to the general public and part of some conversations.
absolutely no present pool players are known to the general public, and no conversations are about pool.

the ingredient lost is character.
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This is not the reason.

The number 1 reason is that there is far more competition for people’s attention now than there was ~50 years ago when things like pool, bowling, etc were booming. And the simple truth is that pool hasn’t shown that it’s compelling enough to demand a large portion of the general public’s attention, whether that be by playing or by watching the professionals. Reincarnating a few guys like Minnesota Fats or Willie Mosconi isn’t going to suddenly reverse that.
 
unfortunately that is the only or easiest way to make sure people are staying at the venue. they need to fill the rooms to get the place and discounts for the tournament.
 
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