Oh so it wasn't because you were going to smoke it, become addicted to it, and ruin your body and life over it?
Kamui Chalk on Ebay....
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Oh so it wasn't because you were going to smoke it, become addicted to it, and ruin your body and life over it?
So if there are circumstances under which buying it wouldn't be stupid, and if there are people actually using it that testify that these circumstances are true, then maybe at least trying it wouldn't be completely stupid? Not as dumb as, lets say, smoking crack?
Let's say you drive a $15,000 car. If there was a car that lasted twice as long, got twice the gas mileage, broke 1/2 as much, was cheaper to repair, looked twice as good, held its resale twice as well and cost $30,000. If you could afford $30,00 would spending it be dumb?
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Except I am not paying $25 to try something.
Besides, I find it hard to believe that those statements are true. First of all it's been only a few months that this chalk is around and of those few months, it wasn't even available for "a few" months.
Let's say you play 24 hours a day with a Master's chalk. That chalk would still last at least 1 month. If the Kamui chalk lasts 50 times more, that would be 50 months, more than 4 years. At that's with 24 hours a day playing time. So longevity claims are pure bs.
See where I'm getting at?
It may be a better chalk than a Masters, but I am not paying that much just to see it. If you have a piece lying around, I'll certainly try (I'll pay shipping) :thumbup:
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I played (and got beat) with a guy using it last week. He "chalked" what looked like once every 5 racks. I chalk (blue diamond) every shot. We were playing 9 ball. I'll let you do the math. I will say that I don't think a cube of masters would last a month under 24 hours a day play, but I could be wrong.
If taht were all true then i could see it but it isn't. It might last a little longer and hold the tip better but do you think it could possibly cost that much to make this chalk?
I understand that it does work really good but to me it is a scam at that price.
Once you use it it loses its value plus it probably will never go up in value in the future.
If on the premise that it lasted for years then i would say go for it but thats far from fact.
I already did the math. Even in the case that the masters lasts 1 week instead of a month (with 24 hours a day of play, mind you), the Kamui chalk should last 1 year, but it hasn't even been around that much.
By it isn't true what do you mean? There are plenty of guys using it that claim that (besides the benefits of less mess and better adhesion) a cube will last them at least 25 or 50 times as long as "regular". Have you used it and found that not to be the case? Also, I'm not sure what manufacturer's cost has to do with end user's value.
Thanks
Kevin
And in your analysis (I'm not sure I even like a week at 24 hours a day) you factor in nothing for the fact that the chalk purportedly gives better adhesion shot per shot and creates less mess?
I'm figuring pre-flag masters at a buck a cube, and from the little I've seen, it is entirely possible that a cube would last 25 times as long, plus, cleaner and maybe better. Plus, a car doesn't have to be twice as good to justify guys spending twice as much. Plus, sticking to the car analogy (rather than crack) I don't see how what the builder spent to make it ever enters into the value equation.
As long as we are concerned with the longevity, it doesn't make any sense to include the adhesion factors and such.
With my analysis (and yes, a regular chalk will last 24x7 hours no problem), I am proving the fact that longevity claims are pure bs and without ground.
Let me break it down for your one last time: "The claim that the Kamui chalk lasting 25 times or more is to be seen."
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So if a guy is using a Kamui cube that he bought a month ago and he has worn it down some amount he would be in no position to judge longevity? He wouldn't be able to judge from that amount of usage and looking at the amount of chalk left how long it might last him?
If I'm eating one M&M a day out of a bag of 200, and that one a day is working real good for me, do I really have to wait all 200 days to say how long that bag will last?
And why would factors such as adhesion and cleanliness not be a relevant in a discussion of value ?
You're changing the subject here. My concern is longevity, not value, and value is subjective.
M&M analogy is not well suited. You cannot count the number of "particles" used in a piece of chalk. While those people are in a position to express their opinion about longevity, they are not in a position to judge it, simply from the fact that the chalk itself hasn't been around to allow for a judgment.
I digress.
Sorry but if I've used a cube of chalk for some amount of time, I would feel that I was in a position to judge how long the rest of the chalk would last me.
And you are right, value is subjective. Some would say, something that lasts longer and does the job better and cleaner would be worth far more, some would figure that's just dumb. Different strokes for different folks.
Well, from a player perspective, being in every pool room I go to Master chalk is free, yes it would be.
To a pool room owner would it be stupid to buy it for their customers because it "lasts longer"? yes it would be. It would be lost, stolen or stepped on by customers before you saw any benefit at all.
If people have money to spend on 70 dollar chalk, why not donate it to a dying kid? There is so many bigger problems than chalk.
I think Efren, Earl, Johnny, and all the pros do quite fine without it... ask them if they would pay 70 bucks a piece out of their own pocket.
Some players play in their own rooms and purchase their own chalk. If I were playing in a flawlessly beautiful room on perfect equipment, being waited on by stone foxes and paying $35 an hour for table time, I would maybe expect the house to provide me with Kamui chalk.
I just bought 4 cubes from Syberts at $25 per.
Am I letting a kid die?
I don't think so, some would say that's a little bit of an emotional argument. Have you took the time out of your life to educate anyone driving an expensive car lately about the better things they could be doing with their money?
Stopped anyone from taking an expensive vacation?
Talked to the guy wearing a Rolex about the kids he is ignoring?
There's a whole lot of money out there one would need to redirect before going to the damage I'm causing by the $25 per I just spent for something I could get (maybe just as good, maybe not) for free.
Those guys play just fine without using a full ivory handled Ginacue too, but that, for some reason, doesn't stop Gina from selling every one they build (and I suppose the guys that shell out the dough for those cues should consider those dying kids too).
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this posting is going off the subject.
OP listed his item for sale. If you don't like the price move on.
Don't crap on anyone elses for sale thread unless they're trying to scam you intentionally.
OP listed his item for sale. If you don't like the price move on.
Don't crap on anyone elses for sale thread unless they're trying to scam you intentionally.
Actually, its nobody's for sale thread (I don't think). The OP is pointing to 2 eBay auctions by 2 different sellers. I think rather than pimping his product (like I do), he's just pointing out the auctions as interesting to those that follow the Kamui saga.
Maybe he's a guy selling on eBay under 2 different eBay names, but I think he's just interested and pointing the auctions out to other interested parties.
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THAT'S IT!! I'm buying the rest off of seyberts and putting them on Ebay
I can't be the only one with this idea. After making a few hundo I'll have a few cubes for free
I can't be the only one with this idea. After making a few hundo I'll have a few cubes for free
THAT'S IT!! I'm buying the rest off of seyberts and putting them on Ebay
I can't be the only one with this idea. After making a few hundo I'll have a few cubes for free
I was going to buy them all. Then I thought of Bunky Hunt and the great silver crash and went small.
Anybody want to invest in some Kamui chalk futures?
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Yeah, I'll short 'em all day long :thumbup:
Well at least one thing is for certain. The people who manufacture this stuff sure are laughing all the way to the bank. But not with my money lol...
But to each his own. But anyone with Kamui chalk, we can still play anytime and have fun, me with my free chalk and you with your Kamui ;-)
But to each his own. But anyone with Kamui chalk, we can still play anytime and have fun, me with my free chalk and you with your Kamui ;-)