Kamui Tips

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I have 3 shafts that are very similar in weight and tip size with 3 tips installed. Medium Moori, Molavia hard and Kamui Medium (brown). All these tips play great in all aspect of the game but I did notice and most everyone that tried it that the Kamui tip didn't draw as well as the Molavia Hard and Moori Medium. My guess is that the Kamui Medium wasn't as hard as the Moori Medium and Molavia Hard. It's also important to note that each of these tip also emit a different unique sound when you hit the cue ball.

I think you'll have to tried them all and find out which tip work best for your game. They are all great playing tips.

Regards,
Duc.

Hi Duc... The Kamui II Brown Medium is the wrong tip to compare to the other two. We process our leather much differently than the others to achieve consistency for the player. SO, If you want to try a draw shot comparison you should try it with the Kamui Black Soft. Or for grins the super soft. Also other factors to consider would be... is the cue ball clean and shiny? Also, is the felt fairly new?

MY point for everyone, a medium tip is not a medium tip to every brand. Let me know if you noticed a difference.

 

[Blue Hog ridr]

I had to hound Kamui to become a dealer. End result, they handed me over to another Canadian dealer so I can purchase tips from him at his mark up. Nothing wrong with that as everyone deserves to make a living.

I don't stock Kamui tips as a result. I push Talisman, Tiger and Wizard tips.
Its too bad because theres alot of players in town that like to change out there tips and experiment.

No biggy as its hard to beat a Talisman or Tiger product tip anyway.

It would be nice to get an explanation as to why I got a run around on this.

 

[mullyman]

I had to hound Kamui to become a dealer. End result, they handed me over to another Canadian dealer so I can purchase tips from him at his mark up. Nothing wrong with that as everyone deserves to make a living.

I don't stock Kamui tips as a result. I push Talisman, Tiger and Wizard tips.
Its too bad because theres alot of players in town that like to change out there tips and experiment.

No biggy as its hard to beat a Talisman or Tiger product tip anyway.

It would be nice to get an explanation as to why I got a run around on this.

It's very possible that the other guy you refer to is the Canadian distributor for Kamui and they may not be able to sell to you directly because of a contract with him. Just a thought.
MULLY

 

[mullyman]

Ok forget the more spin quote for a min.

Maybe this is a better example:

I have always been told a beginner should start with a softer tip as its more forgiving etc. less miss cues etc. Now there must be a reason for this, not sure what you would call it but you did sort of agree with this earlier, yes?

I cannot play with a very soft tip as i find it dead like you said. But some of the characteristics of a soft tip are i like. ie. much less likely to miss cue.

So i would say the Kamui Black tip i now have on my cue plays more like a very soft tip but its as hard as my previous Moori II.

How does that sound, maybe the more spin thing is just because of my stroke not being perfect so i get better reaction with this tip!

This I can get on board with. I'll tell you a story, if it relates to you or not I have no idea but someone may get something out of it. About 15 years ago, maybe a little more, I was mid B level player. Moori came on the scene like a bull in a china shop. As was the fad I went with a Moori M. The time I had that tip on my cue was the worst time I've ever had with miscues and jumped balls from miscuing on draw shots. I swore off Moori and went back to Triangle, which I believe is actually harder than a Moori M, but I digress. Anyway, flash forward to about 5 years ago, I've moved up into the SA class, I was in a different pool room and didn't have my cue with me so I borrowed one. The tip was a Moori and as soon as I saw it I immediately thought about my previous experience with them. What could I do though, I didn't have my cue. Anyway, I played a few hours using that cue and didn't have any problems with miscues or jumping on draw shots because of a miscue. The only thing I could think of was that the problem so many years ago had to have been my stroke. I've been using Moori's ever since. I want to try a medium/hard Kamui because of the consistency I've heard of. I've experienced dud Moori's and if Kamui can deliver on that end I'll be a convert. So far so good on my 3C cue. I don't feel like I'm breaking in a tip with the Kamui. It felt right from the first shot.
MULLY

 

[SoniDJ]

The first moori I used came apart, I started using everest and have been content.
It is time for a new tip and I will try a Kamui Black, I like a med h to hard tip it allows for jumping partial balls and have had no probs when I need to masse some. I like to hear a crisp hit over a thud anyday. Hell who knows I might just be excited to spend 30 bucks,

 

[lfigueroa]

I think the tip you used *might* be a factor. Here's the deal.

With a hard tip (Compared to other hard tips), you're probably not going to notice a great deal more grip or spin because the tip is so hard. Where you see a more dramatic effect is in the softer end (S and SS) of the spectrum. While I don't have a lot of experience with the Brown tips, I can say that the Black tips DO grab the cue ball much better than a lot of other tips that *feel* the same in regards to firmness.

I think that's the reason I like them.


The Black tips have the feedback of a firmer tip, but grip the cue ball like a soft tip.


It's like you get the best of both worlds...

I think this is a good description. The Kamui black super soft only act/play like a soft tip -- they're not mushy at all.

Personally, I don't know about the more spin claim -- all I'm saying is that they feel like they grip the ball better and when executing something like a soft precise draw shot, I feel like I can hit it slower/softer without miscuing.

Lou Figueroa

 

[SoniDJ]

Well I put the Kamui's on, a black M on one shaft and a brown M on the other.
A friend installed them and delivered them about 20 minutes before the local tournament started and the main playing shaft has the black on it. Well I started test hitting to extreme sides of the cue ball and it seems to hold chalk and grab very well. I like it but need more time to play it. It definitely is a better tip than the prior and as of now I'm happy with it. I have a single layered tip of some kind on my Andy Gilbert J/B and it plays great too, but tries to mushroom a little after heavy breaking and I have a hellofa break. I think it's a Triangle or Talisman not sure.

 

[ridinda9]

I've never once thought about using side spin with my break cue. Please tell me that you think using side spin on a break shot opens the balls better, puts more action on them. HAHA!!!
MULLY
I don't have a phenolic tip on my break cue

NO , but on a 9-ball rack it will bring the cue back up to the head of the table , where it's got less chance of being hooked. just sayin . . . .
I don't have a phenolic on my break cue , either - cuz it won't give the sidespin . . .

 

[Dakota Cues]

My apologies to Mully...

Ok forget the more spin quote for a min.

Maybe this is a better example:

I have always been told a beginner should start with a softer tip as its more forgiving etc. less miss cues etc. Now there must be a reason for this, not sure what you would call it but you did sort of agree with this earlier, yes?

I cannot play with a very soft tip as i find it dead like you said. But some of the characteristics of a soft tip are i like. ie. much less likely to miss cue.

So i would say the Kamui Black tip i now have on my cue plays more like a very soft tip but its as hard as my previous Moori II.

How does that sound, maybe the more spin thing is just because of my stroke not being perfect so i get better reaction with this tip!

Mully,

Sorry if I came across like an arse. It must have been a bad day or something. :sorry:

What I meant is what was said above here, but I'll elaborate a bit more.

The harder tips don't seem to grab the ball as well for me, especially with extreme english/draw, etc, BUT I like the feel. The softer tips grab the ball well, but can feel a bit mushy.

What I like about the Kamui (as stated above, and in one other post of mine) is that the softer tips (S, and SS) FEEL like harder tips, but have the grip characteristics of a soft tip.

 

[schoolyouatpool]

First Kamui tip

I just put a Kamui Black tip on my Meucci black dot shaft last night. This is only my second layered tip. I had a Tiger emerald on it before. I am a lifelong Meucci user so I had always used LePro tips before. I still have one on my 2 red dot shafts and like them a lot. I have been playing pool for about 25 years now and a little set in my ways as far as equipment goes. I have always had great results with what I have used and stuck with it. I am excited to get to try out this new tip though.

 

[h2o4170]

It is impossible for one leather tip to impart more spin on a ball than the other tip. What a crock of crap that is. I'm fine with this tip, but I just don't see what the big deal is.
MULLY

Not totaly true.What kamui are you using?I use the Kamui super soft and while it may not put anymore spin on the ball than any other super soft tip it does retain its shape and hit longer than any other.Now if you play with a med moori and a med kamui there shouldnt be any noticable difference in spin.If you play with a tailsman hard or a moori soft the moori should give u more spin.IMO the Kamui super soft is the best tip ive used in 30 years.But some people dont like a soft tip and for a med tip I like the tailsman.There are alot of great med tips out there but for a real soft tip i think the Kamui is the most consistant,accurate,and has the best longgevity.But thats why there are so many diff. choices

 

[h2o4170]

I've never once thought about using side spin with my break cue. Please tell me that you think using side spin on a break shot opens the balls better, puts more action on them. HAHA!!!
MULLY
I don't have a phenolic tip on my break cue

Maybe thats why my fancy new break cue hasnt helped my one pocket break. LOL