Keith Josey or Bob Frey - Sneaky Pete

Keith Josey or Bob Frey Sneaky Pete

  • Keith Josey

    Votes: 66 56.4%

  • Bob Frey

    Votes: 51 43.6%
  • Total voters
    117
brilliance

brilliance

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Anybody had a chance to play with Keith Josey and Bob Fray sneaky petes?

Im more interested into feeling and playability, im sure both of these guys are making top of the line cues.

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I shoot with a Josey sneaky and a Diveny with 1 buterfly [pretty much a sneaky]. The josey hits as well as any cue i have ever hit with there is no vibration or deflection it is solid as a brick and straight as an arrow. I can not comment on a Frey as he as well makes a hell of a cue:grin-square:
 
brilliance said:
Anybody had a chance to play with Keith Josey and Bob Fray sneaky petes?

Im more interested into feeling and playability, im sure both of these guys are making top of the line cues.

???
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Of the two I would go with Josey personally. I like a forward balanced cue and I have to hit with one of his that isn't. Very solid and well playing cues.
 
I have an early 90's Frey SP that is more of a true sneaky. Also have a newer ebony with the 3/8th x 10 pin, and joint collars. Both cues hit amazing, but I like the big pin wood to wood joint one better. I enjoy playing with both of cues enough that they convinced me to order a custom from Mr. Frey. Never played with a Josey, I'm sure their great cues... but I'm happy with my Freys...:thumbup:

FWIW, On the newer big pin Frey I can feel the points. The points are as close to even as what I can expect out of a sneaky pete. It has a very solid hit. The early 90's frey has the piloted joint, no joint collars. The points are dead even, and you can't feel the points at all. It plays great as well, but the shaft is a little less stiff than my newer frey. And I prefer the wood to wood joint myself.
 
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I played for a little while with a Josey, and it was comparable to pretty much anything I've had, which includes scruggs, gilbert, original(1969) Joss, etc. Not necessarily the same type of hit, but every bit as solid and quality.
 
brilliance said:
Anybody had a chance to play with Keith Josey and Bob Fray sneaky petes?

Im more interested into feeling and playability, im sure both of these guys are making top of the line cues.

???
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Frey started making cues ~1978 and worked with Tim Scruggs (basically making the world famous Scruggs Sneaky).
Josey started making cues ~1992. I don't know who he worked with along the way.

Both have a good reputation. But my money went to Frey. I have a nice purple heart sneaky, 7/16-14 with 2 piloted shaft. Hits EXACTLY like my Scruggs sneaky.

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I've owned and played considerably with both a Josey and Frey. If you prefer a stiffer hit, go with a Josey, very solid hit. Would have kept mine if it had been under 20 oz..
Went to a Diveney butterfly which was beautifully made and played similar to the Scruggs fancy SP's I've had (a bit more action in the shafts). I prefered it over the Frey too. You could feel the points on the Frey which kind of turned me off.
 
I too would have to give the nod to Keith Josey. The workmanship is outstanding...fit and finish are top-notch. Shaftwood is awesome. Very solid feeling cues...but they are on the stiffer side...but not too overly. Even his cues that may feel rear-balanced, do not feel that way once in your stance...difficult to explain, but it works, and works very well!

Additionally....Keith and Sherri are just super people to deal with. Still wish I had mine, but will get another someday, hopefully not too far down the line. Between the two choices, I could not recommend Josey's highly enough...super players!!!

www.joseycues.com
kjosey@joseycues.com
800-514-CUES

Lisa
 
My Frey is a very solid hitter with a nice neutral balance. It is a fantastic cue.
 
ridewiththewind said:
I too would have to give the nod to Keith Josey. The workmanship is outstanding...fit and finish are top-notch. Shaftwood is awesome. Very solid feeling cues...but they are on the stiffer side...but not too overly. Even his cues that may feel rear-balanced, do not feel that way once in your stance...difficult to explain, but it works, and works very well!

Additionally....Keith and Sherri are just super people to deal with. Still wish I had mine, but will get another someday, hopefully not too far down the line. Between the two choices, I could not recommend Josey's highly enough...super players!!!

www.joseycues.com
kjosey@joseycues.com
800-514-CUES

Lisa
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I have an early Franklin SW, 2 Runde Schons, a Paul Mottey and a Josey. Guess which one I'm playing with.:thumbup:
 
HeLLFiSH said:
do they make their own full splices, or do they use blanks from schmelke?
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While it was my understanding that he was building his own blanks, I have been since told that that may or may not be the case.

What I can tell you is that if you want the answer from the horse's mouth, give Keith a call or send an email...they are very prompt, usually, in responding. The only time I got a delayed response, was when their computer crashed...and even then, they tried other avenues. They're good people, and will be more than happy to answer your questions.

Lisa
 
hi Lisa

ridewiththewind said:
While it was my understanding that he was building his own blanks, I have been since told that that may or may not be the case.

What I can tell you is that if you want the answer from the horse's mouth, give Keith a call or send an email...they are very prompt, usually, in responding. The only time I got a delayed response, was when their computer crashed...and even then, they tried other avenues. They're good people, and will be more than happy to answer your questions.

Lisa
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ridewiththewind,
i would also like to know because i thought and always believed that keith made his own 'full spliced blanks" and certified that to others.

i hope i am not wrong.

but regardless, his full splices are still great cues.

but i would like to know the facts.

all the best,
smokey
 
smokey said:
ridewiththewind,
i would also like to know because i thought and always believed that keith made his own 'full spliced blanks" and certified that to others.

i hope i am not wrong.

but regardless, his full splices are still great cues.

but i would like to know the facts.

all the best,
smokey
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This has always been my understanding as well.
 
My two players are a Bob Frey Sneaky, and a Josey 4pt traditional. I love the Frey, but nothing hits better than a Josey period. That my opinion, for what it's worth.
 
I just sold my Josey, and let me tell you. I'm gonna miss it, it hits amazing! Very stiff but still in control. I've never played with a Frey so I can't comment, but as for the Josey. Buy one and don't look back. You wont regret it.
 
Josey makes jam up cues. I have no idea about Frey. I will one day have one of Josey and Golds higher end cues.(Cognoscenti.)
 
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I don't have a thing against Bob Frey and I can't speak about how his cues play since i've never owned one, but I can give advice about Keith Josey since i've owned a few of his cues.

Keith is one of the nicest cue makers in business today. He builds a fine cue and he stands behind them 100%. If you decide to go with a Josey you won't be sorry.

I've always heard good things about Bob Frey also, but I don't have any experience with his cues.

James
 
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