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herkemeyer

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I'm sure Cue Cut is a great product, I just can't figure it out. Is there someone out there that would be willing to spend a few minutes with me? I would really appreciate any help I can get.

Thank you in advance.
 
I'm sure Cue Cut is a great product, I just can't figure it out. Is there someone out there that would be willing to spend a few minutes with me? I would really appreciate any help I can get.

Thank you in advance.

Hello friend,
What is your question exactly? What can’t you figure out?
Did you try to follow the instructions on the help file?
 
Example...Something I'm trying to do to learn. I have 1 in. dowel. 12.25 inches long. 1.25 in. six wing cutter. I have my CNC "Y" zero set directly perpendicular of the spindle path. I entered the 1" initial diameter in the Cue Cut and tried to taper it with a final small diameter of .9" in 2 passes. Should take off .05" per pass right? Nope. the cutter is a solid 1/2" off of the part. Never touches.

If I do get it to cut, I want to take off .05" and it might take off .003".

So frustrated!
 
Example...Something I'm trying to do to learn. I have 1 in. dowel. 12.25 inches long. 1.25 in. six wing cutter. I have my CNC "Y" zero set directly perpendicular of the spindle path. I entered the 1" initial diameter in the Cue Cut and tried to taper it with a final small diameter of .9" in 2 passes. Should take off .05" per pass right? Nope. the cutter is a solid 1/2" off of the part. Never touches.

If I do get it to cut, I want to take off .05" and it might take off .003".

So frustrated!

You have your parameters set wrong.
Pm me your phone number and I call you tomorrow afternoon or you can call me on mine.
 
If X is your long axis (12.5 inch direction) and Y is your 'depth of cut', you need to zero the Y axis at the center of rotatation (interchange for Y is long axis). Sounds like it's zeroed on the dowel edge.
 
I'm assuming you entered 1.125 as your cutter diameter. The Center of your tool needs to be zeroed on the point of your dead center. If you are touching off the cutter to the point of you're dead center, that is where your error lies.
 
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Sorry it took so long to reply but here are some pictures. Starting tip size .560 and I tell it to go to .479. When I run the G code it doesn't touch the shaft. There is no reduction in size. aphelps1, you can see that my cutter is set at 1.250.
 

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Sorry it took so long to reply but here are some pictures. Starting tip size .560 and I tell it to go to .479. When I run the G code it doesn't touch the shaft. There is no reduction in size. aphelps1, you can see that my cutter is set at 1.250.
Are you positive your Y axis is calibrated correctly? In other words, if you tell it to move 1" in the Y does it actually move exactly 1"?

Your settings in cue cut look ok unless I missed something.

Lets see where it should start cutting. 1.25 tool divided by 2 = .625 Initial shaft tip dia = .560 divided by 2 = .280 .... .625+.280 = .905.... so to just touch the existing shaft Y should be -.905".

The depth of cut appears to be .041/2=.0205, so .905-.0205 = .8845" . Your program is starting at Y -.8880" which, while not exact and I'm not sure why, is not in error far enough to make it not touch (it's only off by three and a half thousandths). So the gcode appears to be fine.

In the mach3 screen above it's showing Y at -.9997. Assuming you stopped the program right where it started the cut it should be at -.8880. You'd be about .100" from touching. Do you perhaps have a tool offset applied? That's the only thing I can think of other than the calibration mentioned above.

Hopefully that all makes sense. Check those things and get back to us. I'm sure between all the people that use Cue Cut here someone will figure it out. :)

PS One other thing I just thought about.... are you sure the tailstock is aligned perfectly with the chuck end? In other words if you are centered on the center on the chuck end are you also exactly centered at the tailstock end? Check that as well.
 
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Sorry it took so long to reply but here are some pictures. Starting tip size .560 and I tell it to go to .479. When I run the G code it doesn't touch the shaft. There is no reduction in size. aphelps1, you can see that my cutter is set at 1.250.
Based upon your information, your Y axis zero in Mach 3 is not correctly set to the center of rotation. If it was, you would be cutting into the shaft and the cutter would have likely crashed into the steel adapter damaging your cutter.
You can quickly check this for yourself.
Remove the shaft
Install a dead center into the chuck
Install a V bit into the spindle
Jog the V bit tip until the tip is nearly touching the tip of the live center
Note the Y axis DRO it should be 0.000. I suspect that yours is not zero.

I set mine using a precise 0.750 aluminum dowel between centers. I put a 0.250 pin in my spindle and touch off. At touch off, I know the spindle center is (0.750+0.25)/2 = 0.500 from center in the negative direction so the spindle is at Y= -0.500. I highlight the Y DRO value and type in -0.500 to zero my Y axis. If i removed the dowel and jogged the pin to 0.000, the spindle would be at the exact center of rotation. This is how CueCut expects your Y axis to be zeroed. CueCut factors in your cutter diameter, tip size and selected taper when it creates gcode.

I strongly suggest going back to cutting a dowel until you get this figured out.

Make sure that you are using a smaller diameter adapter when tapering.

Good Luck and happy tapering!
 
Good points Mike!

herkemeyer, I just created a file using your settings. As you can see, the Y does indeed start at -.884 per my calculations above. The only difference is I'm using a "stock" taper that came with cue cut. You may also want to check your custom taper and make sure nothing wonky is going on with it. Although Kelly's error correction has caught every bonehead mistake I've made. :)

What I don't understand is why your gcode is different than mine using the same settings. The only thing I can think of there is that it has something to do with your custom taper. That still doesn't explain why it's not cutting because at Y -.8880 it should be at least cutting.

It can only be one of three things:
1. As Mike said, be sure to double check your Y zero and make sure it's exactly centered (both headstock and tailstock ends).
2. Your Y calibration could be off.
3. You could have an inadvertent tool offset.

I can't think of anything else right off hand.

Let us know how you get on.


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Edit: I replaced the image because it was late/early when I created the original picture and had the wrong gcode displayed. I had initially ran it with my values for the safe Y and Z and forgot to create another file after I changed it to your safe values. Didn't make any difference for the actual cut but didn't want to cause any additional confusion. :) I'm wondering now if the code you showed in your post was created from an earlier attempt as well. That would explain why your code was showing a different starting Y cut value than what I calculated. Making this mistake made me realize how easy it is to do. Especially when it's late and you're in a hurry. ;) My apologies to anyone who noticed the safe Y and Z values didn't match the cue cut settings in the original picture.
 

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