kevin Trudeau's Natural Cures

I can tell you from experience he is right about this, one of the biggest ripoffs in the world is anti-acids, 60% of all people taking these could stop heartburn by simply taking 2 or 3 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water with their meals, Doctors were ready to give someone I know an operation for bad heartburn, she said she would try anything and she tried this and avoided surgery and has no heartburn at all now, same with my parents.

There are plenty of alternative ways to heal ones self, if I went into prayer I know a lot of people would crack jokes, but it's being studied and yes many large drug companies do try to hide alternative medicine.

Vinegar and Honey are 2 awesome substances that do wonders for many problems, honey is like an antibiotic.

Nothing at all wrong with the book, is it all truth no, but since when does truth and advertising go hand and hand, does anyone remember Coca Cola or Dr. Pepper's claims:D

Do your own research always, all doctors are not perfect or totally honest, but sadly people listen to them like the know everything and people die because of this....always do the research no matter who tells what you need to do.

Fun Book, fun read, some real facts and some things to research.

Hope he sells a another Million.
 
SlimShafty said:
I can tell you from experience he is right about this, one of the biggest ripoffs in the world is anti-acids, 60% of all people taking these could stop heartburn by simply taking 2 or 3 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water with their meals, Doctors were ready to give someone I know an operation for bad heartburn, she said she would try anything and she tried this and avoided surgery and has no heartburn at all now, same with my parents.

There are plenty of alternative ways to heal ones self, if I went into prayer I know a lot of people would crack jokes, but it's being studied and yes many large drug companies do try to hide alternative medicine.

Vinegar and Honey are 2 awesome substances that do wonders for many problems, honey is like an antibiotic.

Nothing at all wrong with the book, is it all truth no, but since when does truth and advertising go hand and hand, does anyone remember Coca Cola or Dr. Pepper's claims:D

Do your own research always, all doctors are not perfect or totally honest, but sadly people listen to them like the know everything and people die because of this....always do the research no matter who tells what you need to do.

Fun Book, fun read, some real facts and some things to research.

Hope he sells a another Million.


What I dont get about doctors is if you go in there for a broken foot,arm something that has nothing to with smoking they always ask do you smoke?? WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING???? Yeah doc I was smoking with my foot when the car I was working on rolled off the jack stand and the car landed on my foot??? Its the cigs fault!! hahaa well it always cracks me up. I could understand if I went in there and said I cant breathe doc my lungs hurt then the smoking question would be relavant.
 
lukeinva said:
they always ask do you smoke?? WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING???? .

Luke,
Smoking significantly impairs peripheral arterial blood flow, slowing down healing. If you want to know how long something will take to heal, then it is one of several major factors. In addition, smoking markedly increases your risk of blood clots in damaged tissue or limbs that will be inactive due to injury; he may need to counsel you on ways to avoid clots.

If none of that matters, he may also be trying to help your sorry a%%. Since the majority of deaths in the USA are from heart attack and stroke (smokers risk is 6-8 times that of non-smokers), then you stopping smoking is better for you than anything the freakin' doctors are ever likely to do for you - and certainly much more important than your poor toe after you dropped a wrench on it.

On the other hand, maybe your doc is just trying to decide whether to buy stock in the tobacco company.
 
bgb said:
There's no such thing as a natural cure. ALL treatments for all illnesses come from something in nature, but people seem to think that just because a chemist worked on them for a while they become less 'natural'. Here's a list of some popular cures, look at how nautral their sources are:

- infections: Penicillin came originally from mold, or from the bacteria that causes it. Vancomycin, which is much more powerful, came from a similar strain.

- malaria: Quinine, is a drug made from chinchilla bark. Before the drug was developed they used to make tea from the bark itself, which was often unsuccessful.

- polio: no cure, but the vaccine is made from a drug called (i think) formalin, which was developed by combining three strains of the virus in a sheep's kidney and then extracting the animal's antibodies.

- rabies: no cure, but the vaccine, imovax, effectively removes the disease if administered during the incubation period. The drug actually comes from human antibodies extracted from infected cells.

Even the most exotic medical treatments, such as radiotherapy for cancer patients, use materials found in nature. Scientists usually mess with the materials for a while, but this is usually to make them easier to work with and to refine the treatment process.

I often hear people talk about how they prefer herbal alternatives to drugs, not realizing that no matter what you take to treat an illness, it's still a pharmacological agent (i.e. a drug), and often with the same side effects. Take chinchilla bark, for example. When it was used to make tea it used to cause the patients extreme physical discomfort (often much worse than the malaria itself) and frequently they died anyways because the tea form of the drug wasn't that powerful. This 'herbal' remedy was far less effective than the refined Quinine developed by chemists, which even if it cause the horrible side effects, at least the patient ended up cured of malaria, and alive.

The ONLY reason that any potentially helpful drugs are kept from the general public by the authorities is because a) they want to make sure that the drugs really work, and b) they want to make sure that they don't do more harm than good.

You just keep taking your government approved medicine lambie.
 
SlimShafty said:
I can tell you from experience he is right about this, one of the biggest ripoffs in the world is anti-acids, 60% of all people taking these could stop heartburn by simply taking 2 or 3 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water with their meals, Doctors were ready to give someone I know an operation for bad heartburn, she said she would try anything and she tried this and avoided surgery and has no heartburn at all now, same with my parents.

There are plenty of alternative ways to heal ones self, if I went into prayer I know a lot of people would crack jokes, but it's being studied and yes many large drug companies do try to hide alternative medicine.

Vinegar and Honey are 2 awesome substances that do wonders for many problems, honey is like an antibiotic.

Nothing at all wrong with the book, is it all truth no, but since when does truth and advertising go hand and hand, does anyone remember Coca Cola or Dr. Pepper's claims:D

Do your own research always, all doctors are not perfect or totally honest, but sadly people listen to them like the know everything and people die because of this....always do the research no matter who tells what you need to do.

Fun Book, fun read, some real facts and some things to research.

Hope he sells a another Million.

You disgust me. He isn't the first one to make claims about natural cures and he won't be the last con-artist to make money off bogus claims. If he claims to have cures, then he should be listing real cures, not selling fake hopes to desperate people.

I doubt you have any real scientific education in the field of medicine or any sort of real expertise in anything you are talking about. It sickens me that someone like you is making a blanket statement calling all doctors liars. I feel sorry for my friends in med school who are working their ass off in the libraries, in the lectures, and in the laboratories believing that they could contribute some good to the society by curing patients.
 
bgb said:
There's no such thing as a natural cure. ALL treatments for all illnesses come from something in nature, but people seem to think that just because a chemist worked on them for a while they become less 'natural'. Here's a list of some popular cures, look at how nautral their sources are:

- infections: Penicillin came originally from mold, or from the bacteria that causes it. Vancomycin, which is much more powerful, came from a similar strain.

- malaria: Quinine, is a drug made from chinchilla bark. Before the drug was developed they used to make tea from the bark itself, which was often unsuccessful.

- polio: no cure, but the vaccine is made from a drug called (i think) formalin, which was developed by combining three strains of the virus in a sheep's kidney and then extracting the animal's antibodies.

- rabies: no cure, but the vaccine, imovax, effectively removes the disease if administered during the incubation period. The drug actually comes from human antibodies extracted from infected cells.

Even the most exotic medical treatments, such as radiotherapy for cancer patients, use materials found in nature. Scientists usually mess with the materials for a while, but this is usually to make them easier to work with and to refine the treatment process.

I often hear people talk about how they prefer herbal alternatives to drugs, not realizing that no matter what you take to treat an illness, it's still a pharmacological agent (i.e. a drug), and often with the same side effects. Take chinchilla bark, for example. When it was used to make tea it used to cause the patients extreme physical discomfort (often much worse than the malaria itself) and frequently they died anyways because the tea form of the drug wasn't that powerful. This 'herbal' remedy was far less effective than the refined Quinine developed by chemists, which even if it cause the horrible side effects, at least the patient ended up cured of malaria, and alive.

The ONLY reason that any potentially helpful drugs are kept from the general public by the authorities is because a) they want to make sure that the drugs really work, and b) they want to make sure that they don't do more harm than good.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about. If they made sure that all drugs work and aren't harmful, there wouldn't be so many lawsuits of new drugs coming out every year. For every informercial advertising a new drug, there is a new lawsuit.
 
bgb said:
There's no such thing as a natural cure. ALL treatments for all illnesses come from something in nature,

Wouldn't that mean that there are only natural cures?
 
Sweet Marissa said:
I'm pointing out that while the creation of drugs to help men get and maintain an erection is abundant, there are still no cures to diseases such as cancer and AIDS.
!

is this from the "if they can put a man on the moon, why can't they,,,,," or "end world hunger" school of thought? :)
 
SplicedPoints said:
You disgust me. He isn't the first one to make claims about natural cures and he won't be the last con-artist to make money off bogus claims. If he claims to have cures, then he should be listing real cures, not selling fake hopes to desperate people.

I doubt you have any real scientific education in the field of medicine or any sort of real expertise in anything you are talking about. It sickens me that someone like you is making a blanket statement calling all doctors liars. I feel sorry for my friends in med school who are working their ass off in the libraries, in the lectures, and in the laboratories believing that they could contribute some good to the society by curing patients.
You could have saved many of them the trouble of going to school and spending all that money and told them that they could have been drug pushers for a lot less. Anyone that is caught in the medical system in the US can attest that most doctors are nothing more than drug dealers.
However, that does not take away from the many doctors that do not allow the drug companies to dictate there prevention and treatment. There are many doctors that seek other means of prevention and healing, and they are to be commended.
 
nice reply Willie

Williebetmore said:
Luke,
Smoking significantly impairs peripheral arterial blood flow, slowing down healing. If you want to know how long something will take to heal, then it is one of several major factors. In addition, smoking markedly increases your risk of blood clots in damaged tissue or limbs that will be inactive due to injury; he may need to counsel you on ways to avoid clots.

If none of that matters, he may also be trying to help your sorry a%%. Since the majority of deaths in the USA are from heart attack and stroke (smokers risk is 6-8 times that of non-smokers), then you stopping smoking is better for you than anything the freakin' doctors are ever likely to do for you - and certainly much more important than your poor toe after you dropped a wrench on it.

On the other hand, maybe your doc is just trying to decide whether to buy stock in the tobacco company.


I'm no doctor, but every thing we do and every substance we put into our body has an effect on our body, especially the healing process.
And just so everyone knows, I'll stick up for doctors, just like I will police or firemen. While they're not risking their life every day at their job, the majority of them do their very best to heal you or save your life when you need them.There are some quacks, just as there are bad cops. But I'll stick up for them all. Just my opinion, Sam
 
Cardinal_Syn said:
To me, it's not whether natural cures work. I'm sure many do, and I'm also pretty sure that they don't cure everything, so doctor prescribed medicines are necessary as well. This article is what bothers me about Kevin. According to the article, the book has no cures in it after it is bought. He is only selling it for the money and to try to get people to subscribe to his web site and pay more money.

When people are dissatisfied, he doesn't care. He won't refund money or try to make things right. When people complain to authorities, he doesn't say that he isn't conning people. He says that it is his first ammendment right to do so.

This article makes him appear to be dishonest. I haven't seen the book, and don't claim to know the entire story about KT. But the last thing pool needs is a perceived "snake-oil" doctor with questionable morals.

Mike
 
Mike Templeton said:
This article makes him appear to be dishonest. I haven't seen the book, and don't claim to know the entire story about KT. But the last thing pool needs is a perceived "snake-oil" doctor with questionable morals.

Mike

Mike,

What does pool need then? Does it need an infusion of money? I think so. Does it need more public awareness? I would say it does. Is there anyone else out there willing to put up large sums of money for this sport? Not that I know of.

I really don't think we in the pool world are in any position to be finniky about who is willing to help us out. I've been on this board for a few years now and I can tell you there has been a huge amount of discussion regarding the poor condition that pool is in. Our pro players have been playing for peanuts for a long time now. They finally have a chance to earn the kind of money that they should have been earning for years and what, we're going to say that we don't need a "snake oil" Dr? I'm not sticking up for Kevin Trudeau's character and I couldn't if I wanted to because I really don't know the man. I am trying to stick up for our pro players that are barely able to eeck out a living with the current money being offered in this sport.
 
Yes, as a matter of fact ...

whitewolf said:
Snapshot, I didn't realize you were such a well rounded person. I read the book 40 years ago yet I have yet to visit his hospital in Va Beach where his records exist - curing over 10,000 patients.

I am fairly well rounded (and not physically ...lol). In my late teens
and first half of 20's, parapsychology was a very big hobby of mine,
mostly because I had several 'visions' of events that later happened.
I was also into meditation techniques. I read every book about
parapsychology and theology that I could get my hands on. I have
even conducted a few seances in my day. My latest interest and hobby
lies in quantum mechanics.
 
Snapshot9 said:
I am fairly well rounded (and not physically ...lol). In my late teens
and first half of 20's, parapsychology was a very big hobby of mine,
mostly because I had several 'visions' of events that later happened.
I was also into meditation techniques. I read every book about
parapsychology and theology that I could get my hands on. I have
even conducted a few seances in my day. My latest interest and hobby
lies in quantum mechanics.

I have a vision......... you know who Art Bell and George Norey are... :D (just kidding with U)
 
He explains his past in the 1st part of his book. He can't recommend you try any particular "cure" as he could be busted for practicing medicine without a license. His book refers you to other books that suggest various cures for different ailments. Some have been proven some seem rather far out. So far it is an interesting read.

For me Edgar Cayce goes back 45-50 yrs ago. His history is worth reading again. Thanks for the reminder.
 
Rickw said:
Mike,

What does pool need then? Does it need an infusion of money? I think so. Does it need more public awareness? I would say it does. Is there anyone else out there willing to put up large sums of money for this sport? Not that I know of.

I really don't think we in the pool world are in any position to be finniky about who is willing to help us out. I've been on this board for a few years now and I can tell you there has been a huge amount of discussion regarding the poor condition that pool is in. Our pro players have been playing for peanuts for a long time now. They finally have a chance to earn the kind of money that they should have been earning for years and what, we're going to say that we don't need a "snake oil" Dr? I'm not sticking up for Kevin Trudeau's character and I couldn't if I wanted to because I really don't know the man. I am trying to stick up for our pro players that are barely able to eeck out a living with the current money being offered in this sport.
Rick,

I agree 100% with what you are saying. We have no corporate sponsors now, and none on the horizon. And hopefully things work out great for pool. But any legitimate corporate sponsors that may have an interest in sponsoring pool in the future would certainly back out if things don't work out with KT's personal tour and personal companies.

What I mean is...What if he is sued by Attorney Generals of states where the book has been sold, because they don't believe that he is giving what he promises on the infomercial. Or what if he gets bad press about pushing his wesite too hard when a person calls to order the book. Because of his affiliation with pool, past or present, other corporate sponsors would shy away from any future sponsorship.

Don't misunderstand. I'm happy that KT is throwing this kind of money into pool. And I hope many players reap the rewards. I'm just a little afraid of his book dealings, and hope it doesn't end up giving pool a worse rap than it already has.

Mike

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9006287/
 
Mike Templeton said:
Rick,

I agree 100% with what you are saying. We have no corporate sponsors now, and none on the horizon. And hopefully things work out great for pool. But any legitimate corporate sponsors that may have an interest in sponsoring pool in the future would certainly back out if things don't work out with KT's personal tour and personal companies.

What I mean is...What if he is sued by Attorney Generals of states where the book has been sold, because they don't believe that he is giving what he promises on the infomercial. Or what if he gets bad press about pushing his wesite too hard when a person calls to order the book. Because of his affiliation with pool, past or present, other corporate sponsors would shy away from any future sponsorship.

Don't misunderstand. I'm happy that KT is throwing this kind of money into pool. And I hope many players reap the rewards. I'm just a little afraid of his book dealings, and hope it doesn't end up giving pool a worse rap than it already has.

Mike

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9006287/


I am a night time person and I actually like to watch infomercials, my wife think I am nuts. But I like hearing the pitch and how they craft the sell. One of the best on now is the selling land in Arkansas with the guy who used to be on Chips. In the last week or so Kevin has completely disappeared. He used to be on almost continually as you flipped channels. I know he had some hearing recently, have they pulled the plug on him? Maybe the cable channels took it on themselves to cut him off or maybe just here in Florida.
 
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I am a big fan of natural cures.I also believe Drs. have their place and most are trying to help.The vast amount of problems are with the drug companys.Look almost every other ad on T.V. is for 1 kind of drug or another.They tell us to ask our Drs. for this or that drug.The Drs. should tell us what drugs we should take for certain ailments ,not the other way around.
I was in the Drs. office when one of the legal drug dealers left him a prescription pad for a certain drug.I dont remember the name.The following week I was back there for a follow up when he gave me a prescription for the drug that she was pushing.Needless to say I threw it out.
Drug companys dont want to cure they want to keep you addicted to there meds.Its good business.
I am very much in favor of stem cell research.It will cure almost everything once they can figure it all out.
Btw read about Dr. Schultz who is another natural cure Dr. Yes he sells natural remedies but he also gives you names of the ingrediants of what he is using so you can make the remedies yourself.I alos dont believe KT can give pool any more bad press then it already has.
 
bobroberts said:
I am a big fan of natural cures.I also believe Drs. have their place and most are trying to help.The vast amount of problems are with the drug companys.Look almost every other ad on T.V. is for 1 kind of drug or another.They tell us to ask our Drs. for this or that drug.The Drs. should tell us what drugs we should take for certain ailments ,not the other way around.
I was in the Drs. office when one of the legal drug dealers left him a prescription pad for a certain drug.I dont remember the name.The following week I was back there for a follow up when he gave me a prescription for the drug that she was pushing.Needless to say I threw it out.
Drug companys dont want to cure they want to keep you addicted to there meds.Its good business.
I am very much in favor of stem cell research.It will cure almost everything once they can figure it all out.
Btw read about Dr. Schultz who is another natural cure Dr. Yes he sells natural remedies but he also gives you names of the ingrediants of what he is using so you can make the remedies yourself.I alos dont believe KT can give pool any more bad press then it already has.

I also am a fan of the natural way when you can, I take no medications at all, not that I would not if it was really required but I would do some of my own research before just popping the pills the doctor wants to hand out. I had asthma and cured it myself, I don't even own an inhaler anymore. My wife and I have been a vegetarians, (we don't preach it) for about the last 30 years and I have to tell you, we are never sick. If we get a bug during the Flu season it runs it's course in like a few days while I see our friends really sick for weeks. Will I live one day longer then anyone else, who knows but I run 4 miles a day and today I have my car jacked up and I'm putting in a custom exhaust system while many guys my age it is all they can do to get out of bed and take their pills. You just want to be healthy as you can for as long as you are here. As for Kevin's book, the problem is, he doesn't offer any cures or real advice it is just a lie as to what you are buying, that does not mean what he advocates is not valid, he himself though has no answers.
 
macguy said:
I also am a fan of the natural way when you can, I take no medications at all, not that I would not if it was really required but I would do some of my own research before just popping the pills the doctor wants to hand out. I had asthma and cured it myself, I don't even own an inhaler anymore. My wife and I have been a vegetarians, (we don't preach it) for about the last 30 years and I have to tell you, we are never sick. If we get a bug during the Flu season it runs it's course in like a few days while I see our friends really sick for weeks. Will I live one day longer then anyone else, who knows but I run 4 miles a day and today I have my car jacked up and I'm putting in a custom exhaust system while many guys my age it is all they can do to get out of bed and take their pills. You just want to be healthy as you can for as long as you are here. As for Kevin's book, the problem is, he doesn't offer any cures or real advice it is just a lie as to what you are buying, that does not mean what he advocates is not valid, he himself though has no answers.
You might be right that Kt has no answers to the natural healing but his book will open eyes to people who run to Drs. everytime they sniffle.
Personally I dont care how he makes his money.I do like the idea that he is trying to take pool mainstream.
 
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