Ki-Tech tips...(Outsville) Opinions?

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KMRUNOUT

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Just curious guys, I just installed a KiTech soft for my good friend. Damn it looks nice!!

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I've used the mediums myself and put a couple on for others. So far, everyone loves them. My experience with the medium is that it held its shape great, required much less maintenance than most layered tips, hit nice, and grabbed the cue ball like crazy. To me, I would characterize it as a triangle on steroids. All the good things I like about a good triangle without any of the bad. I guess I'm calling "bad" the tendency of triangles to harden up considerably after some play and age. Generally though, I'd say the KiTech medium is one of the best tips I've ever tried. Personally I think I will like the medium hard better. The medium was definitely not that hard. Wouldn't call it soft or mushy at all. It was crisp and didn't feel especially flexible. I use a OB Pro+ shaft (11.75mm), and I hate the feeling of a tip flexing sideways when I use english. The medium didn't do that. I will get some feedback on the soft tomorrow. Anyway, these tips have been out for a while now. Just wondering what people think?

KMRUNOUT
 
I've been trying to tell everyone..........

Whatever they are doing to these tips they play great.

Hold their shape great.

I use the medium and couldn't ask for better results.

If you havn't tried one your missing out.
 
I like the Hammerhead break tip a lot. Didn't get into the Ki-Techs. Maybe I'll try them again in the future, but right now I'm a pretty big fan of this Zan medium.
 
I have tried soft and a medium kitech, the medium being my personal favourite. They are good tips, they do what they are supposed to and dont glaze over too fast. Only problem that I have with them is the feel that i cant get quite familiar with. They feel a bit "sturdy" to me, the feel of hit is something a bit damper than with the laminated tips that Im used to. I still have a spare kitech, maybe ill put in on one of my extra cues one day :rolleyes:

Definitely worth trying, they are great products and Chris is a great guy making and selling them. I had one with a bit of an issue, the problem was quickly identified and replacements sent to me right away. Thats what I call customer service at its best :smile:
 
How it sounds when you chalk the tip? I' m playing now with a cheap Elkmaster tip, I hate the sound when I chalk it.
 
I have Kit-Tech on three shafts. All are softs. I haven't tried medium so far. The one thing I like about ki-techs is that, they play consistently the same through the life of the tip - unlike some layered tips which start super-soft and then over time become like mediums.

The one aspect that I don't like, is the sides need burnishing one too many times. My cue smith puts a hardener or super glue on the sides, which helps to a certain extend.

I intend to try the mediums very soon.
 
I've had a medium on my Jacoby Edge Hybrid for about 6 months now, and I absolutely love it. I'm definitely never going back to a layered tip. Like with all tips, mine mushroomed slightly about 3 months in, and I had my cue repair guy (Duc Lam) trim and re-burnish it, and it hits a touch stiffer now, but still plays great. As mentioned above, if it ever glazes, just a quick little roll on my gator grip knockoff and I'm good to go. It works great with every chalk I've used on it, I've noticed that Masters tends to miscue a bit more, though. The great white chalk works great, but I got complaints about the mess it left on the table. Kamui blue, Triangle blue, and Blue diamond all work good on it also. I had the Hammerhead tip installed on my BK2 a few months back. It works fine right after install, but I really noticed the difference after giving the loctite some time to set. Mine came pre-shaped, so I thought it was fine right off the lathe, but it wouldn't hold chalk. Some light scuffing and I was good to go. I've used a Samsara, White diamond, Mezz phenolic, Taom v1.0, and some others on that same shaft, and I prefer the Hammerhead by far.
 
suharsh said:
I have Kit-Tech on three shafts. All are softs. I haven't tried medium so far. The one thing I like about ki-techs is that, they play consistently the same through the life of the tip - unlike some layered tips which start super-soft and then over time become like mediums.

The one aspect that I don't like, is the sides need burnishing one too many times. My cue smith puts a hardener or super glue on the sides, which helps to a certain extend.

I intend to try the mediums very soon.
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Tell him to skip the glue on the sides, and touch it up with a black sharpie, then burnish/polish.

I use the soft, and have absolutely no mushroom after 3+ months of use on my daily player.(15-20 hrs a week) Tooling needs to be super sharp when cleaning up the sides on install. Should look like the pic in first post.

I've got these on at least one shaft for 5 different cues, with the other shafts using a Kamui SS, and I'm using the Ki-Tech shafts at least 80 percent of the time now. After going back to the Kamui shafts for a few racks, I quickly find myself switching back to the Ki-Tech shaft. They have a slightly softer sound, but I'm used to it now.

When I finally remove the the remaining Kamui's, they will be replaced with Ki-Tech 100%.

I've never met Chris, and don't know him from Jack, but he has, in my opinion the best tip on the market.
 
This thread makes me feel really good about ordering the sample pack and great white chalk yesterday :-)

I only have one shaft, so I need to decide which tip to try first. From the sound of it, people really like the medium, so I'll probably go with that.
 
Nice looking install.

I had a Ki Tech hard installed on my cue and absolutely love it. I love the positive feel of the hard compared to a softer tip. It holds chalk great.

Everyone keeps talking about less spin with a hard tip, but I can put just as much English with my hard tip as I could with a softer tip.....

I love the no maintenance of the Ki Tech.
 
I love my Ki Tech medium. It holds chalk like no other too! My box of Master will last a loooong time.
The only issue I had was shaping. My steel It's George (that I really liked) tore it up pretty good.
Chris recommended the Ultimate tool and it does work great with this tip. I guess the sandpaper is less harsh. I love the Hammerhead tip too.
Side track: The Accu-rack is great also.
Chris is a great dude. He will be at The Open, and I believe they are using his rack for the tournament. Look him up!
 
I tried all the KiTech hardnesses....Went with the medium for good; have had it over a year on my shaft and I play just about every day...still looks like when I put it on. Luv it...getting ready to order the hammerhead now for my break stick.
 
I really like the Ki-techs. I played with Le Pros for a a long time, then Kamui for years. The Kamuis started glazing too much and miscues followed. I started losing confidence in my ability to dig down low so I started looking around for options and at that time got ahold of a Ki-tech soft. I really like the way it played but it was a bit soft for me, sorta gave me the same feeling of an good elkmaster, lots of action but really felt mushy and didnt give me that same feedback from firm hits that I like. I got a Ki-Tech medium and I really like it. It holds chalk well, wears well and has played consistent for well over a year now. To me if feels like an outstanding triangle, only it wears better and doesnt mushroom. About 3 mos into playing with it I cut off all the remaining Kamui tips on both my playing cue and backup playing cues and had Ki-techs installed.

My most recent tournament play was just this past weekend. I played 13 matches in two days and did not miscue one time. Granted this is with using a tip tapper 1x before the match started and maybe one time during every match, but I cannot tell you how many times I used the exact same tip maintenance routine for match play with the kamui and still miscued.
 
uwate said:
I really like the Ki-techs. I played with Le Pros for a a long time, then Kamui for years. The Kamuis started glazing too much and miscues followed. I started losing confidence in my ability to dig down low so I started looking around for options and at that time got ahold of a Ki-tech soft. I really like the way it played but it was a bit soft for me, sorta gave me the same feeling of an good elkmaster, lots of action but really felt mushy and didnt give me that same feedback from firm hits that I like. I got a Ki-Tech medium and I really like it. It holds chalk well, wears well and has played consistent for well over a year now. To me if feels like an outstanding triangle, only it wears better and doesnt mushroom. About 3 mos into playing with it I cut off all the remaining Kamui tips on both my playing cue and backup playing cues and had Ki-techs installed.

My most recent tournament play was just this past weekend. I played 13 matches in two days and did not miscue one time. Granted this is with using a tip tapper 1x before the match started and maybe one time during every match, but I cannot tell you how many times I used the exact same tip maintenance routine for match play with the kamui and still miscued.
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I have played many tips over the years ... for over a year now I have been playing a Ki Tech Medium ... Best tip I have ever used and second place is not close.

Here is why...

1) CONSISTANCY !! This tip plays the same through out it's life, something that no layered tip is capable of.

2) Zero maintenance, no hardening, no mushroom, no glazing.

3) Very long life span - will out last a layered tip 3 to 1.

4) Reasonable price considering the performance.

5) Excellent cue ball grip - very consistent and predictable spin.

Try one of these and the days of using layered tips will most likely become a distant memory...

Good rolls.
 
Agent 99 said:
I have played many tips over the years ... for over a year now I have been playing a Ki Tech Medium ... Best tip I have ever used and second place is not close.

Here is why...

1) CONSISTANCY !! This tip plays the same through out it's life, something that no layered tip is capable of.

2) Zero maintenance, no hardening, no mushroom, no glazing.

3) Very long life span - will out last a layered tip 3 to 1.

4) Reasonable price considering the performance.

5) Excellent cue ball grip - very consistent and predictable spin.

Try one of these and the days of using layered tips will most likely become a distant memory...

Good rolls.
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I agree 100 %. It's one hell of a tip that won't have you gritting your teeth at the price.
I tend to spin the ball with extreme english and I do it with out worrying about a miscue.
 
I appreciate all the great reviews but the real thing that is missing is the accolades to the installers that actually installed the Ki-Techs correctly...

Install on our tips at this point may be more important than the tips themselves...

Installed correctly I will put a Ki-Tech up against anything on the market and we will leave them for dead after about 6 weeks... You won't out perform us and you sure as hell won't outlast us because we will play the same from cradle to grave...

Mr Moori changed the game over 20 years ago... We intend to change it back... Get off the layered tip bandwagon and quite wasting time and money...

Outsville is coming... It's not about the money.. It's about performance and value.... Outsville is coming......
 
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