Knowing your limitations by JoeyA

I know that Dave knows limitations right now........

Joey,

According to LocknLoad - you have no limitations! Good thread topic regardless :).

Sorry we won't have time to meet while at Mardi Gras...another time perhaps.

Dave

Hi there Dave,

I know the limitation problems you are having right now. Not just doing normal things with that shoulder but trying to play pool a little earlier than not.

I did the little earlier and paid some painful prices.

Shoulder surgeries are all a little different but the trauma from the surgery is usually nery painful for everyone. They told me that my recovery would take a year but because being diabetic I could add on a couple of months.

I'm going to explain what you have went through a little on here.

For about 5 days the pain is unbearable after the surgery. It even hurts worse when you breath. I tried holding my breath for short periods of time and I'm sure you tried that also. it only worked for a short period of time. Eventually you had to start breathing again.

Then for about a month it just keeps aching like a bad tooth ache. It just never seems like it will stop. During this time your arm doesn't even feel like your arm. Even when you try to reach for something light it just doesn't go where you want it to.

You can't even touch your face with your hand. getting a fork to your mouth is out of the question. Can't tie your shoes or even pull up your pants. And the bathroom is a whole new adventure.

Ice is your best friend. After 30 days the doc takes away your pain meds. But not before because he knows how painful it is.

After about about 8 weeks you pick up a cue stick to see if you can stroke and you can, about 2 inches. So you start hitting a few balls around and you realize that you can actually make some balls but it is really stretching your limitations. You try to do it not moving your shoulder much but you can't. it still moves some and it hurts. But you keep on.

Maybe I won't ever be able to play again.

This is why I brought this up because your limitations keep changing. Each week it seems your limitations keep changeing a little at a time.

Now it's 10 weeks and they'res a $25,000 added State tourny at Ho Chunk Casino that you want to try and win but you don't know if you can get ready. you can make some balls but can't break very hard at all. Could it be possible.

You send in your entry only to find out later that they opened it up to all the pros. Now you really have a predicament. Maybe you should just forget about it.

Then you think to yourself, the Doc says I can start playing in about 4 months but to take it easy. That was to start but you have to get ready to win this thing 3 and 1/2 months after the surgery.

What does the Doc know. Your a pool player.

You played for about 1 hour the first day and had to ice it for 2 hours just to be able to sleep. Over the next 2 weeks you use so much ice you are starting to feel like a piece of meat that your trying to keep from spoiling.

Then you go to the tournament with your 2 to 4 inch stroke to see what you can do. So far you can play for one day for about 2 hours but the next day it's pretty tough to play and painful.

To your surprise there aren't alot of pros there. They must have been at another tourny some place else. But you did have to play a guy from New york and a guy from Texas and one from London England so a few did come.

Unbelievably you end up in the final match in the 9-ball and the 8-ball also. The main thing that crosses your mind is you can't wait to show your physical therapist. He seemed to think it was impossible to play let alone win. You can't wait to show'em.

Now you have a terrifying thought. You know tommorrow is going to be painful. But there is a muscle in there someplace that just decided to quit. It just won't work. Kind of like your climbing up a hill and you just can't raise your leg anymore. And it hurts real bad when you stroke the cue just a little.

You think to yourself, well second place in both tournys isn't so bad.

You lose the 9-ball TV match 7-6 7-6 to Jeff carter.

In the final game on the hill your running out the rack knowing your limitations but seem to forget. You have a shot and jack up like you have 100's of times before only to have the cues come down in an ackward way and really screw up the shot. Jacked up was one way you could not shoot with the shoulder the way it was but for those few seconds you forgot and thought you could do it.

Again it came to knowing your limitations.

Then to your surprise you play very well in the 8 ball against a guy from London England. You skunk him . He doesn't even win a game in the final match. The difference was with the 8 ball you didn't have to shoot any real tough shots that you had to stroke real hard.

Second in the 9-ball and 1st in the 8-ball. Not a bad weekend.

You can't wait to show the trophies to your physical therapist because you know they won't hardly believe it.

That was the funnest part. Because they knew.

And now you know my friend how rediculously insane it was to even try to play in those 2 tournaments. I know you know the pain and the recovery and the time needed to heal.

You think to yourself , If they only knew. If they only knew how rediculous this achievement was.

Hope your shoulder is doing fine my friend.

Have fun there at Mardi Grah and be careful with that shoulder. I know it still hurts plenty.

Geno..............



But you got 3 or 4 more weeks to get ready.
 
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Hi there Dave,

I know the limitation problems you are having right now. Not just doing normal things with that shoulder but trying to play pool a little earlier than not.

I did the little earlier and paid some painful prices.

Shoulder surgeries are all a little different but the trauma from the surgery is usually nery painful for everyone. They told me that my recovery would take a year but because being diabetic I could add on a couple of months.

I'm going to explain what you have went through a little on here.

For about 5 days the pain is unbearable after the surgery. It even hurts worse when you breath. I tried holding my breath for short periods of time and I'm sure you tried that also. it only worked for a short period of time. Eventually you had to start breathing again.

Then for about a month it just keeps aching like a bad tooth ache. It just never seems like it will stop. During this time your arm doesn't even feel like your arm. Even when you try to reach for something light it just doesn't go where you want it to.

You can't even touch your face with your hand. getting a fork to your mouth is out of the question. Can't tie your shoes or even pull up your pants. And the bathroom is a whole new adventure.

Ice is your best friend. After 30 days the doc takes away your pain meds. But not before because he knows how painful it is.

After about about 8 weeks you pick up a cue stick to see if you can stroke and you can, about 2 inches. So you start hitting a few balls around and you realize that you can actually make some balls but it is really stretching your limitations. You try to do it not moving your shoulder much but you can't. it still moves some and it hurts. But you keep on.

Maybe I won't ever be able to play again.

This is why I brought this up because your limitations keep changing. Each week it seems your limitations keep changeing a little at a time.

Now it's 10 weeks and they'res a $25,000 added State tourny at Ho Chunk Casino that you want to try and win but you don't know if you can get ready. you can make some balls but can't break very hard at all. Could it be possible.

You send in your entry only to find out later that they opened it up to all the pros. Now you really have a predicament. Maybe you should just forget about it.

Then you think to yourself, the Doc says I can start playing in about 4 months but to take it easy. That was to start but you have to get ready to win this thing 3 and 1/2 months after the surgery.

What does the Doc know. Your a pool player.

You played for about 1 hour the first day and had to ice it for 2 hours just to be able to sleep. Over the next 2 weeks you use so much ice you are starting to feel like a piece of meat that your trying to keep from spoiling.

Then you go to the tournament with your 2 to 4 inch stroke to see what you can do. So far you can play for one day for about 2 hours but the next day it's pretty tough to play and painful.

To your surprise there aren't alot of pros there. They must have been at another tourny some place else. But you did have to play a guy from New york and a guy from Texas and one from London England so a few did come.

Unbelievably you end up in the final match in the 9-ball and the 8-ball also. The main thing that crosses your mind is you can't wait to show your physical therapist. He seemed to think it was impossible to play let alone win. You can't wait to show'em.

Now you have a terrifying thought. You know tommorrow is going to be painful. But there is a muscle in there someplace that just decided to quit. It just won't work. Kind of like your climbing up a hill and you just can't raise your leg anymore. And it hurts real bad when you stroke the cue just a little.

You think to yourself, well second place in both tournys isn't so bad.

You lose the 9-ball TV match 7-6 7-6 to Jeff carter.

In the final game on the hill your running out the rack knowing your limitations but seem to forget. You have a shot and jack up like you have 100's of times before only to have the cues come down in an ackward way and really screw up the shot. Jacked up was one way you could not shoot with the shoulder the way it was but for those few seconds you forgot and thought you could do it.

Again it came to knowing your limitations.

Then to your surprise you play very well in the 8 ball against a guy from London England. You skunk him . He doesn't even win a game in the final match. The difference was with the 8 ball you didn't have to shoot any real tough shots that you had to stroke real hard.

Second in the 9-ball and 1st in the 8-ball. Not a bad weekend.

You can't wait to show the trophies to your physical therapist because you know they won't hardly believe it.

That was the funnest part. Because they knew.

And now you know my friend how rediculously insane it was to even try to play in those 2 tournaments. I know you know the pain and the recovery and the time needed to heal.

You think to yourself , If they only knew. If they only knew how rediculous this achievement was.

Hope your shoulder is doing fine my friend.

Have fun there at Mardi Grah and be careful with that shoulder. I know it still hurts plenty.

Geno..............



But you got 3 or 4 more weeks to get ready.

Geno,

Your point is well taken my friend. I especially feel it when jacking up as you mentioned or worse yet, jacking up and need a quick stroke. Ouch. But I did not go through the same amount or length of time to heal as you describe, and am I glad!

I couldn't play for about 5-6 weeks and when I started back I could only soft break and couldn't stretch much. That steadily improved and I feel pretty good at the moment. Breaking as hard as I want (but I'm a wimp so not very) and doing a lot of what I used to do. I still have problems w/that jacking up thing and if I play in the weekly tournament and break firmly, I still feel it the next day. But I don't baby it any more and I feel the worst is way over.

My shoulder held up better than I did at Mardi Gras :) - I had an awesome time riding the float and throwing beads, I got pretty accurate.

You finishing 1st & 2nd in those events are unbelievable to me. Not because you aren't capable, but I know what your shoulder must have felt like. You truly knew your limitations and played within yourself. Awesome baby...but I see it hasn't affected your typing :).

Dave
 
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