Korean four ball game

RBLilly · Jul 24, 2007

Samiel said:
Last night I had the opportunity to try this game with a Korean friend of mine. We played one point for each successful carom as long as the other cueball wasn't hit. Otherwise we just lost our turn. I think penalizing for hitting the other cueball might make things a little more interesting. After the set number of points was reached, we played that you had to hit a 3C shot to "get out" and win.

Things I noticed... the balls are much larger, even larger than regular carom balls (like 3C balls). The table didn't seem to play as fast as a 5x10 billiard table with those large balls. Also, the angle seemed to be a bit shallower for balls hit with running english coming off the rail.

We also enjoyed some Korean cuisine afterwards. It was a great experience!

Did you eat Gaegogi? or Bulgogi?

Samiel · Aug 2, 2007

That night I had Pork... I don't remember what the Korean name was... sorry! Bulgogi sounds somewhat familiar though.

CrownR426 · Mar 15, 2011

I started this game 3 weeks ago and I'm playing at 50. :embarrassed2:
I started off playing at 30!

Very hard because I barely played pocket ball but what I can say is that this is definetly harder than pocket ball.:angry:
I especially hate the gen sey aka block.
When the player most likely misses his shot and somehow ends his cue infront or near the red ball you are going for.
Many terms I'm learning.
This game is great though I am addicted.
Sucks that I pay 15 a hour...

billiardshot · Mar 15, 2011

First Let me say Welcome to AZBilliards Forum and its Carom Billiard section.

Thanks for your input on Korean 4Ball.

Maybe the Term [definition] we need more of.

Any more Please add.

gen sey aka block.

Black-Balled · Mar 15, 2011

billiardshot said:
First Let me say Welcome to AZBilliards Forum and its Carom Billiard section.

Thanks for your input on Korean 4Ball.

Maybe the Term [definition] we need more of.

Any more Please add.

gen sey aka block.

You probably know it as it is called in 3c 'slow to the red'...

billiardshot · Mar 19, 2011

SlickRick_PCS · Mar 23, 2011

Wow, a thread from years back... And still my question hasn't been answered. Go figure. :embarrassed2:

Dean_H · Mar 23, 2011

To answer your question SlickRick I think the tables in the old 4 ball videos of TBC are not heated. I think now some of the new Hollywood Carom 4 ball tables have a heating element. Having Gone to Korean Billiard halls I noticed that the Korean owners like to keep the tables very clean.

How is the skateboarding going for you?

SlickRick_PCS · Mar 30, 2011

Dean_H said:
To answer your question SlickRick I think the tables in the old 4 ball videos of TBC are not heated. I think now some of the new Hollywood Carom 4 ball tables have a heating element. Having Gone to Korean Billiard halls I noticed that the Korean owners like to keep the tables very clean.

How is the skateboarding going for you?

Thanks there, Mean Dean!

WELL... I just recently been tinkering on my skateboard (the 9" vert) on the street but I am looking forward to going to Eisenberg Skatepark in Plano, Texas to start getting up on that vert ramp. Either this option, or go over to Alliance Sk8park in Grand Prairie for mini-ramp. I still need a couple of boards: A freestyle skateboard from Sk8kings (well, I have been having an eye on another as well) and the other is just a Zero street deck. I have an apartment that needs it's bills paid and that's the hinder.

Back on topic: I am planning to play mostly the small games (Freegame, the Balklines, and cushion caroms) if I can only find a nice carom area to play on. Thanks for the advice, Mean Dean.

--- Rick S.
DFW, Texas

Dean_H · Mar 31, 2011

Hi SlickRick, if you like the small games I found this youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/BillardFriend?feature=mhum

Check it out.

As for the skateboarding keep at it.

SlickRick_PCS · Mar 31, 2011

Dean_H said:
Hi SlickRick, if you like the small games I found this youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/BillardFriend?feature=mhum

Check it out.

As for the skateboarding keep at it.

Wow, did you find gold. This is awesome! Thanks, Mean Dean!

j0elpark · Sep 20, 2011

Hello,

New here. I realize this is a very old thread, but thought I could give some information about this game.

Fouls are called "backing." Basically you separate the number of beads according to your handicap when you start, so if you are 200, you would move over 20 beads to the middle. Every time you miss or hit the other cue ball, a "backing," you add an extra bead. When you score you move a bead to the left.

The tables are smaller and usually not heated. They just take good care of the balls and tables in Korea, cleaning them after every game. 5x10 tables are known as "dae-dai," Japanese for "big table." Lots of Japanese terms are used, e.g. jjodan (short rail), oshi (follow), hikki (draw), shineru (spin). There are Korean terms as well, but not used as much.

Handicaps are determined by how many you can score in about 15 min. Usually 200 is considered decent, 300 good, I think. At that point you can bring the object balls together. If you master the serie (nursing?) you are at 2000 since you can just go around the table without stopping.

About the grip being more forward, it gives you more control since control is more important than power in this game as the cue ball usually doesn't travel as far as in 3c.

Also, the rules are kinda decided upon by the players before they start. If rail first shots or 3c shots should be 2 points or not. And after you reach your handicap you have to make a 3c shot to win.

Hopefully that was useful to someone. If there are any more questions, let me know, I'll try my best to answer. I don't know everything about the game.

Joel

j0elpark · Sep 20, 2011

Just to add a few things.

The big tables are for 3c only. Massés are only allowed for 300 and above, usually. I believe the cushions on the smaller tables are a little higher, since the balls are bigger. Also in Korea I saw another game (6 ball) once that involved six multicolored balls, but I have no idea how that is played. I was told it was very hard to play. The younger generation also seem to play less 4 ball and more 3c.

six ball:
http://auctionbilliard.com/web/product/medium/auctiondanggu1_261.jpg

Korean four ball game

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