Lake Superior Cue Shaft
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If I remember correctly. The 1 inch dowells were being offered for around 200.00. Finished shafts 350 to 400.
I thought they made drums - the ratatat boom boom kind with all that stock.
It hits 3 quadrillion-- gallons.
There is enough water in Lake Superior (3,000,000,000,000,000--or 3 quadrillion-- gallons) to flood all of North and South America to a depth of one foot.
There is enough water in Lake Superior (3,000,000,000,000,000--or 3 quadrillion-- gallons) to flood all of North and South America to a depth of one foot.
Have you ever tried an ash shaft on a pool cue?
And due to the way water is transported around the globe::It hits 3 quadrillion-- gallons.
There is enough water in Lake Superior (3,000,000,000,000,000--or 3 quadrillion-- gallons) to flood all of North and South America to a depth of one foot.
In every cup of water in Lake Superior is at least one water molecule that was drunk by Julius Ceasar in his life time.
Thank you Michael. It’s kind of interesting that I can’t find much of any information searching the interweb.
I'm not surprised. Thise dowells/shafts never really took off the way suppliers hoped.
Yes, I’ve tried ash at pool and snooker….I played pretty good with it…but I find it inferior to maple.
…it’s open grained as opposed to maple which is closed grain so therefore smoother….and maple, if it’s round and straight, flexes the same way no matter how you turn it….ash flexes different if the arrows are up or sideways….players find the chamfered butts handy as reminder grips…with maple, this isn’t necessary.
Ash is popular in snooker because maple doesn’t grow well in England’s climate.
…pear and cherry hit better, IMO, but more expensive because of resin pockets.
I was asked once how my game was….told him “The last time I felt superior was when I fell off a dock in Duluth.”it hits Superior.
fixed that for you.
Years ago I had the late Paul Dayton make a cue for me and he offered these Lake Superior salvage wood shafts. I ended up going with standard maple because I didn't really see the need for the added expense. But he did say something to the effect of those shafts were the most stable shaft wood he'd ever used and seemed to lack the ability to warp.
For what it's worth, the standard maple shafts for the cue he made me were beasts. Full 13 mm, natural ferrules, and both weighed just over 5 oz.
For what it's worth, the standard maple shafts for the cue he made me were beasts. Full 13 mm, natural ferrules, and both weighed just over 5 oz.
WOW !!!
How did the balance feel? Does it feel that there is a lot of weight on the bridge which slows down your stroke?
The cue was ever so slightly forward balanced and it played great. I did end up trading it to Cue Addicts at The Derby for a Nitti that I still have to this day. There were a couple of factors besides great wood that might have made those shafts so heavy. First, Paul's taper was super gradual. I think he referred to it as an "elliptical" taper. So the shaft had a little more mass to it than ones that have the really long pro tapers. Plus (and I'm not 100% sure this even is a factor) it was a 5/16-14 pin so it had a metal insert. In all honesty, the only reason I traded it was that I was going through a cue obsession phase and wanted something new.
Iirc, the superior shafts are on the light side?
3.6oz give or take? Is this wrong?
I like a heavy shaft too. Never tried a 5oz.
My Schon's are 4.1-4.3oz.
My shafts weren't Lake Superior wood though. I opted for regular maple because my game didn't want to pay for the salvage wood. But Paul hooked that cue up with some pretty incredible "regular" maple. Also, keep in mind that Paul's taper left more wood than a standard straight or pro taper. So I'd bet that had at least a little to do with the shafts' overall weights. Regardless, those shafts were crazy from a weight standpoint.
I remember talking to Paul on the phone about what taper I wanted and he talked me into going with his standard taper by saying, "You might not like it at first. But play with it. It'll become a part of you." And he wasn't lying. I absolutely wasn't sure about it at first. But the more I played with it, the better it felt. And, honestly, I'd bet you could say that about most cues/shaft tapers. But it really did hit nice. Like, REALLY nice. But, around 5 years later, it ended up not being the cue for me because I thought I needed something different.
I remember talking to Paul on the phone about what taper I wanted and he talked me into going with his standard taper by saying, "You might not like it at first. But play with it. It'll become a part of you." And he wasn't lying. I absolutely wasn't sure about it at first. But the more I played with it, the better it felt. And, honestly, I'd bet you could say that about most cues/shaft tapers. But it really did hit nice. Like, REALLY nice. But, around 5 years later, it ended up not being the cue for me because I thought I needed something different.
Timeless Timber is a company that recovers logs from the Great Lakes and sells the wood for many different uses. Their website is interesting to read and view. I don't know how many cuemakers make shafts from wood obtained from underwater logging. But for an indication of the cost of such shafts -- I'm aware that Keith Josey has had them available for many years; his current website indicates that those shafts carry a premium of about $100 over his regular shafts.
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Pat Diveney had them for years and was also charging a premium. They could have been 4 or $500, but I don't remember for sure. A used cue with a Lakewood shaft may carry some premium, but pricing will still reflect the reputation of the cue maker and cue.
Backwash? Ewwww