Laminated tips

Yeah, I've tried everest, and Malavia too and had no real complaints. I honestly think It just has more to do with what Your personal preferences are and what You are used to playing with.

Some do hold their shape better then others though, so that would be a preference of mine, I don't use tip scuffers or shapers, just a tippik for holding chalk, so that would be an important to Me. I don't mind trimming once after break in, but any more then that turns Me off to a tip. If You press them ahead of time though, then You change the hardness level, so I like them to hold shape instead of changing the characteristics that make any given brand unique. I do press some tips on occasion, because some play better that way also, but some I like to keep the original hardness level intact, and don't want to give that up trying to get a tip to hold shape.
 
I've always use the morri med but have found the new ones to be harder so this last order i bought the morri soft. never tried the wizard who has them. ive tried the kamori but it felt to spongy been thinking about the malavia but have'nt orderd any yet.
 
I personally use Wizzards and compressed Elk Masters. I like both, plenty of feel, plenty of action.
 
I still use the trustworthy Triangles.

I float, press and hardness test every tip for consitency. I find the Triangle rarely loses it's shape-even after breaking with them and properly chosen- never mushroom. They do get a little resistent to chalking so the only tool I recommend is the tip pick to open them up a bit. They get down to a point where this is needed more often at times though.

IMO.
-Chris
 
Wizards Are All I Use Anymore. I Personally Use The Hards, But Most Of My Users Prefere The Mediums.

I Was A Moori User, And The Old Instrokes And Talismans, But Switched Away After They Made Changes/were Discontinued. I Went On A Hunt, And Chose The Wizards As My New Favorite.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
Wizards Are All I Use Anymore. I Personally Use The Hards, But Most Of My Users Prefere The Mediums.

I Was A Moori User, And The Old Instrokes And Talismans, But Switched Away After They Made Changes/were Discontinued. I Went On A Hunt, And Chose The Wizards As My New Favorite.
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I like hard tips and have always put Talisman hard on all the cues that I build. I believe they are the best playing tip on the market, bar none at any price but they have their drawback in that they delaminate more than most other laminated tips. That is a real problem as although I guarantee the tips I sometimes have people who drive over a 100 miles each way for a tip and that is both time consuming and expensive. I bought a box of the hard Wizards but soon decided that they were a little to hard and I was mis-cueing more than I liked. I then got a box of the med. and have installed them on some of my customers cues and they really liked them but I don't know if that's because they are much better than the hards or just because I discounted them. I, myself, have not tried a medium as of yet as I've been trying other tips and there are so many of them.

Dick
 
Dick,
In my opinion if you like a hard tip the Wizard M isn't going to be what you're looking for. They are not hard by any means. I myself like either soft or medium, and it's perfect for my tastes. Just trying to save you some time and a tip.
 
I have a Kamui soft on one of my shafts and like it pretty well. I put on a Medium and did not like it very much. The medium did not mushroom, but it really seemed too hard and it was too weak on the draw shot for my style of play. On the other hand the soft produces plenty of cue ball action with very few miscues. I also played with the Sniper for a while and it was a good tip for cue ball action. The Moori medium gave me a few too many miscues, but it is still my most popular selling tip by far. I am making me some layered tips myself and will try one soon. I have the leather glued up and will cut some soon. Who knows maybe I will come up with a good tip. I figure I need to do something to pay for that leather splitting machine. :)
 
I've been using Moori soft on my personal cue for a long time. Always love the way they cut and shape when installing even the new generation. But today I did three med Moori and they didn't cut well and shaping was hard. It's been happening more often and I thought perhaps it was a dull blade but no, the very center of the tip is lifting..

Mario




BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE WORLD.
 
I have tried many tips, I like moori med. and the original hercules med. more than any others. I also go back and forth on wich one I like better.
The hurcules are a bit harder.
I used to swear by talisman, but they just dont hold up like the moori or hercules do.
The absolute worst laminated tip on earth is the H-2 what a peice of crap!

The Red funny lookin tip is soft in the middle, hard on the outside, plays pretty darn good... and cost almost nothing.

Go Vote!!
 
I like tips that are medium hard, hold chalk well and don't mushroom. Having gone through quite a number, my favourites are Tiger Everest, Moori Mediums and good medium-hard Lepros.

Everests are a bit soft when installed but after they are broken in, they are consistent, have the solid "thud" sound, don't mushroom and hold chalk well. No problems getting the action I need as well.

Moori mediums are fine too - a little hard with the "click" sound but overall suits me fine. Same thing with Lepros but the trick is finding a good one as some are hard as nails and others play like Elkmasters.

I don't like the hard tips quite as much and those that fall into this category are Talisman Hard, SuperPro, Moori Hard and Kamui Medium and Hard. To me, Snipers and Elkmasters are too soft and produce a mushy hit.
 
jayman said:
I have tried many tips, I like moori med. and the original hercules med. more than any others. I also go back and forth on wich one I like better.
The hurcules are a bit harder.
I used to swear by talisman, but they just dont hold up like the moori or hercules do.
The absolute worst laminated tip on earth is the H-2 what a peice of crap!

The Red funny lookin tip is soft in the middle, hard on the outside, plays pretty darn good... and cost almost nothing.

Go Vote!!
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Ill put on whatever tip anybody wants,for myself i use only orig hercules med,i only have 7 left for my own use,if the customer wants a lam tip and leaves it to me to decide i go with moori soft,never get any complaintes
 
My first layered tip making experiment was not a total failure, but has produced a tip that is too soft and spongey for my taste. It is maybe even a little softer than a Elk Master. Back to the drawing board on this one. So for the time being Moori, Kamui and Sniper still rule as top layered tips. I am fairly hard headed so I am sure I will try again with some different leather.
 
cueman said:
My first layered tip making experiment was not a total failure, but has produced a tip that is too soft and spongey for my taste. It is maybe even a little softer than a Elk Master. Back to the drawing board on this one. So for the time being Moori, Kamui and Sniper still rule as top layered tips. I am fairly hard headed so I am sure I will try again with some different leather.
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When making anything, there is no such thing as failure because you learn something each time, There is only how many times it will take you to do it to your satisfaction. Best of luck, You can do it.
 
cueman said:
My first layered tip making experiment was not a total failure, but has produced a tip that is too soft and spongey for my taste. It is maybe even a little softer than a Elk Master. Back to the drawing board on this one. So for the time being Moori, Kamui and Sniper still rule as top layered tips. I am fairly hard headed so I am sure I will try again with some different leather.
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Did You have any luck with the glue Chris?

I've made a couple of layered tips, still trying to find the right leather and glue though. I had some luck with poly glue but that was short lived, and even though I pressed the layers, I had the softness issue you mentioned also. I remember someone sending Me some samples of a new brand of tips one time, and they had almost the exact same issues. Funny thing I never heard much about those tips since, so I guess it was more then just a batch issue. I was thinking maybe one day I'll try some pigskin & other types if I can find some that look appropriate, but still need to experiement with better glues.
 
I've tried the Moori Med, Snipers, Talisman and a few others, but I personally like and have not had any problems with the Talisman Pro M tips. I have installed many of these and have had 2 return for delimating problems.

I just received a handfull of Wizards and also the 5th Ave. tips. I'm hearing good things about the Wizards, but haven't heard much about 5th Ave... any info?

Thanks,
Zim
 
I play with Tiger (Hard) that I have pounded away on with a hammer before installing.

My absolute favorite was a Tiger Jump/Break, with the same pre-install process as above; however I made it too hard & had a chunk come out of it and 2 costly miscues during competition. The miscues and chunking (compression) were probably my fault, but rather than worry about it, I just crept down 1/2 a hardness and am very happy.

For most customers, unless they are very specific about what they need, I will recommend a Sniper. I usually get very, very positive feedback.
 
I perfer Everest and install on all my cues unless customer specifies otherwise. Everyone I have installed them for except for a a couple people knock on wood has liked them.
 
Cue Crazy said:
Did You have any luck with the glue Chris?

I've made a couple of layered tips, still trying to find the right leather and glue though. I had some luck with poly glue but that was short lived, and even though I pressed the layers, I had the softness issue you mentioned also. I remember someone sending Me some samples of a new brand of tips one time, and they had almost the exact same issues. Funny thing I never heard much about those tips since, so I guess it was more then just a batch issue. I was thinking maybe one day I'll try some pigskin & other types if I can find some that look appropriate, but still need to experiement with better glues.
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I can say my gluing process has room for improvement also. So far the tip is holding together, but barely seems to be doing so. It don't play bad. But I want my tips harder. I glued up some different leather with a different glue this week and will make a tip out of it in a few days.
 
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