Last nite APA league.. My SL3 made an incredible shot

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dooziexx

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She is playing a SL5.. 4/2 race and its hill-hill.. She left herself with this layout.. Calls a coach.. After a couple of mins, I decided that theres really no way for her to play an effective safety.. Hence I coached her to do a 3-Way Shot. Shoot the 8 into side pocket, an extremely thin cut with about a 5% chance of making it. If she makes it, she wins.. If not she will leave the c/b at A, making it tough for her opponent to play the 5. Also if she misses, she will push the 8 closer to the side pocket so if she gets another chance, it will be a easy shot.. Cueing over the 1, she cuts the 8 right into the side!!! What a shot!! Now Im praying that she doesnt go up to a SL4 coz next week is playoffs...:D

http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/pooltable2.html

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dooziexx said:
She is playing a SL5.. 4/2 race and its hill-hill.. She left herself with this layout.. Calls a coach.. After a couple of mins, I decided that theres really no way for her to play an effective safety.. Hence I coached her to do a 3-Way Shot. Shoot the 8 into side pocket, an extremely thin cut with about a 5% chance of making it. If she makes it, she wins.. If not she will leave the c/b at A, making it tough for her opponent to play the 5. Also if she misses, she will push the 8 closer to the side pocket so if she gets another chance, it will be a easy shot.. Cueing over the 1, she cuts the 8 right into the side!!! What a shot!! Now Im praying that she doesnt go up to a SL4 coz next week is playoffs...:D

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Erik- I like your style- I am not sure that is even a 5% shot- that seems pretty severe- esp if you were on a bar table and cueing over a ball. Good stuff!
 
The APA is full of crybabies, nits, and sandbaggers. I'm not talking about you, and congrats to your teammate on that nice shot. But I really am talking about the majority of the APA.
 
Good shot

That was good for anyone, let alone a 3.
Bet that shot makes their whole week!!! .. lol
 
gforces1911 said:
Erik- I like your style- I am not sure that is even a 5% shot- that seems pretty severe- esp if you were on a bar table and cueing over a ball. Good stuff!
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In the past, Ive been told by my teammates that Im a bad coach.. Which is true because my mind works differently and I tell them to do stuff that only I can do because its hard for me to come down to their level.. This coach worked beautifully. I have to give my SL3 all the credit in the world coz she made the shot. When I first told her of my 'plan' she looked at me and thought I was nutz.....The other team was stunned!!!!
 
Every day has it's dog....

Would have loved to see that SL5's face after that! HAHA!
 
cuetechasaurus said:
The APA is full of crybabies, nits, and sandbaggers. I'm not talking about you, and congrats to your teammate on that nice shot. But I really am talking about the majority of the APA.
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APA is more of a night out with pool involved, not a night out playing pool for most.

All bar leagues TAP APA and such that have handicaps are always going to have players under and overrated for their skill level. Just have fun with it, and you will be OK. It's when you take it seriously when you are going to have problems.
 
Gregg said:
APA is more of a night out with pool involved, not a night out playing pool for most.

All bar leagues TAP APA and such that have handicaps are always going to have players under and overrated for their skill level. Just have fun with it, and you will be OK. It's when you take it seriously when you are going to have problems.
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True but my SL3 is really a SL2/SL3 not more than that.. She cant execute a draw or stop shot to save her life... Last nite she must have had about 5 long straight in shots where she nails the shot but the cb would follow into the same pocket... At least she has her straight stroke!!!
 
cuetechasaurus said:
The APA is full of crybabies, nits, and sandbaggers. I'm not talking about you, and congrats to your teammate on that nice shot. But I really am talking about the majority of the APA.
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Damn, you sure do like to start the same arguments over and over again, don't you? This thread wasn't even about the APA, and you come in with this comment? It would be one thing if the thread was actually about how good the APA was. It'd be another thing if the merits/faults of the APA hadn't already been argued to death. But to come in here unprovoked just to try to start another war about leagues, I think you just thrive on contention.

-Andrew
 
That's awesome Doozie! I take it an SL3 is very low-skilled player? That shot, if your diagram is correct, is tough for ANYONE at ANY level. I like your decision too, let her go for the win instead of a safety in that spot. Congrats, for a job well done. Peace, John.
 
Great Shot, i did this almost same shot before, i had a runout and left this cut, knew i couldn't cut it down the table so i just put the patch by the side pocket got down and fired knowing i was playing a weak player and will have another turn at the table instead i made the shot hehehe. Congrats on your Team
 
SL2/3's!!!

Awesome Doozie...thats the advice I would give as well...if there is no lock up safety, go for the WIN! Thats an amazing shot for an SL3! But, we all know, (those who play Leagues), what an off night and an SL2/3 with a bit of luck thrown in can do to your night! :D

Kudos to her!

oh, and yeah, she'll be a 4 next week! LOL
 
WOW!! Butt..

Since were going to have her go for the nutts anyway. You should have had her bank it to pocket A, and hide the cue behind the 2ball.

SHHEESHH..:p
 
Jersey said:
Awesome Doozie...thats the advice I would give as well...if there is no lock up safety, go for the WIN! Thats an amazing shot for an SL3! But, we all know, (those who play Leagues), what an off night and an SL2/3 with a bit of luck thrown in can do to your night! :D
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I'll tell ya, I've seen some great shotmakers at those skill levels. What typically keeps them there is the cueball control issue. And I agree about the choice. If I'm coaching my 3's and 4's and realize that the safe is as tough or tougher than the shot, I like to let them go for it.

Doozie,
Congrats to you and your player on a great shot. (like you did any of the work :D ). It's always fun for me as a capt/coach to see players have a good night like that. Good luck with the rest of your season!!
 
Good post and interesting story Doozie!

As someone who has played hundreds of league matches and now manages a league, there are good and bad things about them. You get to see the worst in human behavior at times, but many other times you get to see people have a ball of a time...and that is great that passions can be stirred by the game.

After all, that's what attracted most of us, and inspired some to dedicate thousands of hours to get to know the game at the higher levels.

The feeling of making a great shot is inspiring and it's great to see those with even little knowledge or skills in the game can get a taste of that euphoria :D
 
safe

Anyone else like thinning thining the 8 on the left trying to get the cue ball behind the 4 and the 2. And the 8 ball near or in the cross corner pocket at least blocking the 1 ball and possible hooking the other player.

I know this was a SL3, and the shot she made was awesome.

Just giving my 2 cents.

mack
 
stolz2 said:
Anyone else like thinning thining the 8 on the left trying to get the cue ball behind the 4 and the 2. And the 8 ball near or in the cross corner pocket at least blocking the 1 ball and possible hooking the other player.

I know this was a SL3, and the shot she made was awesome.

Just giving my 2 cents.

mack
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i thot about that trust me but she has problems with speed control.. I weighed out of all my options on that shot while I was coaching her ie table layout, shot difficulty, opponents capabilities etc and thought this was the best way to go and put the pressure on all the other player who is a SL5. My SL3 took the match to the hill after the SL5 had a 3-0 lead. So all the pressure was on him to win. As an added bonus, the cb did come back to position A, and it was nipple hooked... :D I guess everything worked out that nite for once..
 
stolz2 said:
Anyone else like thinning thining the 8 on the left trying to get the cue ball behind the 4 and the 2. And the 8 ball near or in the cross corner pocket at least blocking the 1 ball and possible hooking the other player.

I know this was a SL3, and the shot she made was awesome.

Just giving my 2 cents.

mack
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I like anything but the shot that was coached.
I hate to be Johnny Raincloud but to tell a three (or a 7) to shoot that shot is a little haywire.
The shot selected sends whitey straight at the corner pocket. If it misses that one then it hits the rail and can go across in the other one. That would be game over.
I would never place a three in a reasonable place to lose by scratching on the 8. They can do that on their own.
Not only is it a near impossible cut but the person is jacked up and has little speed control.
I am not exactly sure what I would have told her to do but it would probably
be to hit the 8 back across the table and try to get it between the one and the corner pocket. Even try to bank it in that corner and send whitey down
table.
Granted by causing the seperation a good player is either out or can play a simple safe back on the 3 but the 3 is still in the game.
I just look at percentages. I am guessing you are a SL7. My guess is that
you cant average anything higher than 10% just making the shot you had the 3 shoot. I dont want to ask the 3 to shoot that shot.
Glad it worked out especially for the three because that really could have caused the three to never trust you again.
 
frankncali said:
I like anything but the shot that was coached.
I hate to be Johnny Raincloud but to tell a three (or a 7) to shoot that shot is a little haywire.
The shot selected sends whitey straight at the corner pocket. If it misses that one then it hits the rail and can go across in the other one. That would be game over.
I would never place a three in a reasonable place to lose by scratching on the 8. They can do that on their own.
Not only is it a near impossible cut but the person is jacked up and has little speed control.
I am not exactly sure what I would have told her to do but it would probably
be to hit the 8 back across the table and try to get it between the one and the corner pocket. Even try to bank it in that corner and send whitey down
table.
Granted by causing the seperation a good player is either out or can play a simple safe back on the 3 but the 3 is still in the game.
I just look at percentages. I am guessing you are a SL7. My guess is that
you cant average anything higher than 10% just making the shot you had the 3 shoot. I dont want to ask the 3 to shoot that shot.
Glad it worked out especially for the three because that really could have caused the three to never trust you again.
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Point well taken...I figure even if she misses, the cb will come back to the lower left corner pocket giving her opponent a tough shot for the out...The SL5 she played wasnt that good either so I figure that could be a tough out for him.. And yes Im a SL7 and a very offensive minded player.. Im still learning the intracacies of playing defense. So alot of times, I dont see an obvious safe opportunities.
 
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