Just got my weekly pooldawg email. It featured lava chalk. Anybody e
fver heard if it or used it
fver heard if it or used it
lava chalk
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I tried it. I like it, it's maybe a little more "gritty." even though I do like it, I'll be sticking with Blue Diamond or Balabushka
Kinda sucks that its rusty red... The pool hall I play at would kill me if I started using this stuff lol Sad when you know the owners so well, does it spit a lot?
Mini Review
I ordered some other stuff, so I went ahead and bought a box to try out.
First, it's a pinkish, orange color. I never planned on using this regularly because I just assumed it would leave reddish marks on the table. I tried this only in the hope that it would be good chalk and might, therefore, be available in blue one day.
Well yes, it absolutely does leave reddish marks on the table. And, unfortunately, it's not good chalk.
It has a dry grittiness like Silver Cup. Not gritty in a good way, but just a slight grittiness which is dry, sort of bordering on powdery. And what's weird is that the powderyness sort of cakes onto the tip in streaks. It's not a covering cakeyness like Master, it's a dry, streaky cakeyness. By streaky, I mean there are streaks that consist of too much dry powdery cakeyness, interspersed with streaks of emptiness where it doesn't stick. It's a really weird mix of the bad thing about Siver Cup and the bad thing about Master. (Don't get me wrong, I think Master is OK, just that it's cakey (and not as gritty as I would like)).
Anyway, after applying it, I immediately think this chalk is going to suck. Well, I was right. Cue ball slippage, less grip, less spin, more miscues.
And the marketing hype is ridiculous. "Pumice creates viscosity". WTF? I would rate this chalk at about 10W-40. And I don't believe for one minute that they actually use pumice, BTW.
Fatz
I ordered some other stuff, so I went ahead and bought a box to try out.
First, it's a pinkish, orange color. I never planned on using this regularly because I just assumed it would leave reddish marks on the table. I tried this only in the hope that it would be good chalk and might, therefore, be available in blue one day.
Well yes, it absolutely does leave reddish marks on the table. And, unfortunately, it's not good chalk.
It has a dry grittiness like Silver Cup. Not gritty in a good way, but just a slight grittiness which is dry, sort of bordering on powdery. And what's weird is that the powderyness sort of cakes onto the tip in streaks. It's not a covering cakeyness like Master, it's a dry, streaky cakeyness. By streaky, I mean there are streaks that consist of too much dry powdery cakeyness, interspersed with streaks of emptiness where it doesn't stick. It's a really weird mix of the bad thing about Siver Cup and the bad thing about Master. (Don't get me wrong, I think Master is OK, just that it's cakey (and not as gritty as I would like)).
Anyway, after applying it, I immediately think this chalk is going to suck. Well, I was right. Cue ball slippage, less grip, less spin, more miscues.
And the marketing hype is ridiculous. "Pumice creates viscosity". WTF? I would rate this chalk at about 10W-40. And I don't believe for one minute that they actually use pumice, BTW.
Fatz
Better hope that they don't use pumice. Try some pumice out on your balls and see how you like the result.
Vicosity applies to liquid friction. From wikipedia:
"Viscosity is a measure of the resistance of a fluid which is being deformed by either shear stress or tensile stress. In everyday terms (and for fluids only), viscosity is "thickness" or "internal friction". Thus, water is "thin", having a lower viscosity, while honey is "thick", having a higher viscosity. Put simply, the less viscous the fluid is, the greater its ease of movement (fluidity).[1]"
Vicosity applies to liquid friction. From wikipedia:
"Viscosity is a measure of the resistance of a fluid which is being deformed by either shear stress or tensile stress. In everyday terms (and for fluids only), viscosity is "thickness" or "internal friction". Thus, water is "thin", having a lower viscosity, while honey is "thick", having a higher viscosity. Put simply, the less viscous the fluid is, the greater its ease of movement (fluidity).[1]"
...and solids can behave like fluids...it isn't as clean cut as the quoted text would imply.
Solids can in fact be properly spoken of in terms of viscosity. The "for fluids only" statement is simply an blatant error if read to mean liquids. Think of a landslide or the liquefaction of soils in an earthquake.
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I stand corrected then.
All due respect....I did not mean to correct you but rather the article...or at least to clarify the quotation.
One might mistakenly assume that fluid means liquid when in fact solids can indeed behave like fluids...and commonly do...
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Whatever dudes.
:wink:Point is saying our chalk has "viscosity" is ridiculous. Viscosity is a measure of something. It's like saying, "my dinner has temperature". OK, your dinner has temperature, but is it too hot or too cold or just right?
And "we got pumice", yeesh, gimme a break.
I just thought it would be fun to write a (deservedly) bad review of a product that uses such cockamamie, absurd marketing rhetoric.
Fatz
Crown City Corey has some in his shop. If someone wants to try it out, look him up.
I picked it up, looked at it and promptly put it back on the shelf. Wasn't even interested in giving it a go because of the color.
I picked it up, looked at it and promptly put it back on the shelf. Wasn't even interested in giving it a go because of the color.
a better description
is that like molecules tend to stick together and the viscisity rating is how much force is required to separate them.
Jaden
is that like molecules tend to stick together and the viscisity rating is how much force is required to separate them.
Jaden
Whatever dudes.
Point is saying our chalk has "viscosity" is ridiculous. Viscosity is a measure of something. It's like saying, "my dinner has temperature". OK, your dinner has temperature, but is it too hot or too cold or just right?
And "we got pumice", yeesh, gimme a break.
I just thought it would be fun to write a (deservedly) bad review of a product that uses such cockamamie, absurd marketing rhetoric.
Fatz
actually all molecules have viscosity, its how much viscosity they have that is measured.
Jaden
So then, to use my earlier analogy, all dinners have food. It's just how much food that is measured?
Further then, it is obvious now that pinkish orange molecules are more viscous than blue molecules.
the latest trend in billiards is chalk. CHALK?
I like to try things out especially if they don't break the bank so here's my experience so far
Blue diamond- too hard, not a fan
NPR- terribly hard, no like
Balabushka- surprisingly really good chalk, similar to master but slightly slighltly harder which means you dont get it all over your hand shaft ETC....
predator- good chalk, pure silica which is what glass is made from, not sure what other chalk is made from.
Kamui- $27 for one piece. hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah. oh and it leaves so much gunk on the cue ball, its ****ing terrible
Lava chalk- grainy and doest stay on tip well at all. HANDS DOWN the best chalk advertisement of all time
Finally I have to say this, I still to this day have not been able to use one to its end, stolen at every turn and a couple of times I forgot it, so whats the point of me buying this stuff really, so ill stick to master, its cheap and free, plus with a tip pik I puncture the tip without taking any leather off and never miscue unless i shoot five six shots without chalking.
and if theres any other type of chalk that i should try let me know, and now that i think of it, if chalk is so important what was the tip revolution all about? I guess moori and kamui aint shit without chalk
I like to try things out especially if they don't break the bank so here's my experience so far
Blue diamond- too hard, not a fan
NPR- terribly hard, no like
Balabushka- surprisingly really good chalk, similar to master but slightly slighltly harder which means you dont get it all over your hand shaft ETC....
predator- good chalk, pure silica which is what glass is made from, not sure what other chalk is made from.
Kamui- $27 for one piece. hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah. oh and it leaves so much gunk on the cue ball, its ****ing terrible
Lava chalk- grainy and doest stay on tip well at all. HANDS DOWN the best chalk advertisement of all time
Finally I have to say this, I still to this day have not been able to use one to its end, stolen at every turn and a couple of times I forgot it, so whats the point of me buying this stuff really, so ill stick to master, its cheap and free, plus with a tip pik I puncture the tip without taking any leather off and never miscue unless i shoot five six shots without chalking.
and if theres any other type of chalk that i should try let me know, and now that i think of it, if chalk is so important what was the tip revolution all about? I guess moori and kamui aint shit without chalk
the reason the lava chalk only comes in the rust color is because they do not use any dye's or additive's to change the chalk color. there is actual lava rock in the chalk recipe and when it oxidizes it turns that rust color you see now. it is a purely organic chalk and the only one on the market.
Organic chalk... going green...?
Doesn't a finely made cue completely counter act the going green organic chalk?
I don't hug trees, I grip cues!
Doesn't a finely made cue completely counter act the going green organic chalk?
I don't hug trees, I grip cues!