Layered Tip Maintinance

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Willi Makaball

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I was wondering of what is the best way to maintain a layered tip.
I have been told not to use a tip pick, and also to use a tip pick.
Use a file to shape it because a Williards or other types will tear them apart.
It is better not to seal the edges, and that it best to.
Everything seems to be contrary , so ,
What is the best method or methods to maintain a layered tip?
Any advise?
 
I used Williards to maintain the shape on my tips on my cues. I have over 10+ cues. Mostly layered only recalled one case where the tip delaminated. I simply re-shaped it down.
 
...and in the opposite corner, I do NOTHING to my tips...except chalk them. This includes layered tips and single layer tips. Playing shapes the tip, and imo no maintenance is necessary. Even when I miscue (very rare) I don't have to mess with the tip...just chalk it.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
 
Last year I had a gift certificate and nothing I needed, so I bought a Kamui Gator Grip. Great scuffing tool because it does a great scuff with minimal "distortion" to the tip. It's a flat piece of metal with micro edges cut into it. You roll your tip on it. It takes a little practice but once you've got it, it does an amazingly good job.

So far it seems like my tips will last at least twice as long (if not more) because I'm not removing any material when I scuff.
 
Scott Lee said:
...and in the opposite corner, I do NOTHING to my tips...except chalk them. This includes layered tips and single layer tips. Playing shapes the tip, and imo no maintenance is necessary. Even when I miscue (very rare) I don't have to mess with the tip...just chalk it.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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I'm in this corner. Once I shape, break in, and shape again, I do nothing but occasionally burnish the sides. That is my measure of a quality tip.
 
Scott Lee said:
...and in the opposite corner, I do NOTHING to my tips...except chalk them. This includes layered tips and single layer tips. Playing shapes the tip, and imo no maintenance is necessary. Even when I miscue (very rare) I don't have to mess with the tip...just chalk it.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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i also play with a layered tip (sniper) and i do nothing but chalk it and i have no problems at all .
 
Willi Makaball said:
I was wondering of what is the best way to maintain a layered tip.
I have been told not to use a tip pick, and also to use a tip pick.
Use a file to shape it because a Williards or other types will tear them apart.
It is better not to seal the edges, and that it best to.
Everything seems to be contrary , so ,
What is the best method or methods to maintain a layered tip?
Any advise?
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Help me I wonder if there is any intelligent life left on this forum.:angry:
 
bdorman said:
Last year I had a gift certificate and nothing I needed, so I bought a Kamui Gator Grip. Great scuffing tool because it does a great scuff with minimal "distortion" to the tip. It's a flat piece of metal with micro edges cut into it. You roll your tip on it. It takes a little practice but once you've got it, it does an amazingly good job.

I have a Kamui black (not clear) soft tip on my cue and I use the Kamui Gator Grip on it. All I do about once every week or two is roll the tip on it and it works great. I do not scuff my tip at all since it would change its shape.
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I have shown a bunch of people this

bdorman said:
Last year I had a gift certificate and nothing I needed, so I bought a Kamui Gator Grip. Great scuffing tool because it does a great scuff with minimal "distortion" to the tip. It's a flat piece of metal with micro edges cut into it. You roll your tip on it. It takes a little practice but once you've got it, it does an amazingly good job.

So far it seems like my tips will last at least twice as long (if not more) because I'm not removing any material when I scuff.
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My weapon of choice is a BRAD tool since I am old fashioned. Not 100% pleased with the new ones and I seem to have lost an old one in a move so I think I'll make my own.

Anyway, you and Bob are absolutely correct. Roll dents into the tip to hold chalk better and a tip lasts for years since you remove little or no material.

The Willard tools are the cue man's friend. They sell more tips than anything else I know of. A new Willard owner can go through several tips a month!

Hu
 
Scuffer seems best

Thanks for the feedback, It seems that Kamui scuffer works best and save the life of the tip, from the responses.
It seems using a tip pick is not done on a layered tip.
Thanks again.
 
Willi Makaball said:
I was wondering of what is the best way to maintain a layered tip.
I have been told not to use a tip pick, and also to use a tip pick.
Use a file to shape it because a Williards or other types will tear them apart.
It is better not to seal the edges, and that it best to.
Everything seems to be contrary , so ,
What is the best method or methods to maintain a layered tip?
Any advise?
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I've been using this for the past year. I play with Tiger Sniper tips and this works well to keep them up to snuff.

TigScuffer.jpg


CocoboloCowboy said:
Help me I wonder if there is any intelligent life left on this forum.:angry:
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Go dig a hole.
 
DAVE_M said:
I've been using this for the past year. I play with Tiger Sniper tips and this works well to keep them up to snuff.

TigScuffer.jpg


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That looks like a good knock-off of the Kamui Gator Grip. Are the "plates" meant to roll the tip on?

Price is important here since the Gator Grip ain't cheap ($33-45 depending on the wood).
 
bdorman said:
That looks like a good knock-off of the Kamui Gator Grip. Are the "plates" meant to roll the tip on?

Price is important here since the Gator Grip ain't cheap ($33-45 depending on the wood).
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The "plates," as you call them, are metal foil like inserts, sandwiched between to aluminum pieces (black). One side is coarse, the other side is a finer grit. They can be used however you wish to use them. There is no right or wrong way.

I'm almost positive that the Tiger tool was out before Kamui came up with their "Gator Grip." Also, price is important. I paid $19 for my Le Manifik tool, on sale, from Seybert's.
 
Willi Makaball said:
I was wondering of what is the best way to maintain a layered tip.
I have been told not to use a tip pick, and also to use a tip pick.
Use a file to shape it because a Williards or other types will tear them apart.
It is better not to seal the edges, and that it best to.
Everything seems to be contrary , so ,
What is the best method or methods to maintain a layered tip?
Any advise?
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check your pm . the answer is there.
 
All you ever need for a layered tip. It does what Kamui Gator Grip in 2 different coarse plus the best shaper. The tip finishes as if it came off a lathe! Japanese Engineering. All my other tip tools including Kamui Gator are just collecting dust.

If you play with a Hard Tip you will never need to shape it. If you play with a Soft tip and are a hard hitter you will need to shape it once every 2 months. This of course if you play everyday 2-3 hours average. But for the average player you really won't need to shape the tip at all assuming you are using high quality layered tips.
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