LD Shafts are bobo, I don't care what you say...

[Patrick Johnson]

...in my experience, [laminated shafts] resist warp better than most solid shafts.

That's part of the cost savings - solid shafts can resist warp too if seasoned and culled for stability, but it means more waste and more time - i.e., more cost.

pj
chgo

 

[mortuarymike-nv]

Bobo brazil

I figured he was talking about Detroit area wrestling legend Bobo Brazil......... :thumbup:

Bobo was famous for his head butts, seen him in Portland Oregon in the early to mid 60's.
I don't think he was a LD shaft fan !

 

[railbird99]

Oh no the big bad LD companies are only in it for the money... Shocker, i thought all businesses only cared about making people happy.

This whole time I've been playing with hardly any deflection, and everything has been so much more consistent than my previous regular shaft. Now you're telling me the wood is shit? Damnit, guess I have to switch.

EDIT: Seriously, who cares about the intentions of the company who made the product. I shoot with whatever I like best. I couldn't care less if it cost predator 2 cents to make the shaft, and it was all just a marketing ploy. If I shoot better and like it better, I'm willing to spend even more than I payed for it.

 

[jburkm002]

I take it pros are not using LD shafts whether sponsored or not.

 

[hang-the-9]

Yes, I understand the mechanics of a low deflection shaft. What I am saying is that the developers of these products did it to make use of junk wood. In the cue making world, the materials used are basically scrap wood. Charging $250 for scrap lumber and glue is basically fancy marketing taking advantage of an extremely gullible and uneducated consumer base. Their innovation was productive and seems to work. My problem is that it has demeaned the skill of classic cue makers. The shafts from my 1979 Richard Black hit as good or better than any laminated or " low deflection shaft."

And yes, I am aware that this is an opinion, so you don't need to explain what an opinion is to me.

"HIT" is not the same as "performance". A car may feel great while on the highway but suck on the track, and some people may want the feel of one but not the other.

There is no way you can compare hit to how the shaft acts mechanically to affect how you aim.

There is no cue that "plays good" or shaft that "hits good", it's what you are used to and like.

You put the cart before the horse in your post about the LD shafts. The only shaft that really feels dead to me is the Predator shafts, Players, OB, the several custom makers LD shafts I've tried, Tiger X, have a pretty decent hit feel.

 

[Drop The Rock]

I take it pros are not using LD shafts whether sponsored or not.

I'm assuming this is sarcasm.

 

[caff3in3]

I'm assuming this is sarcasm.

Pretty sure it is. I remember seeing a stat that 60% of top male pros were using predator cues or shafts and not paid to do so. Not sure on the timeframe but pretty sure it was before OB hit the market. I think that stat is still used on some billiard e-commerce sites

 

[KRJ]

Pretty sure it is. I remember seeing a stat that 60% of top male pros were using predator cues or shafts and not paid to do so. Not sure on the timeframe but pretty sure it was before OB hit the market. I think that stat is still used on some billiard e-commerce sites

I know Allison fisher uses OB. And the best female player is not gonna screw up her game for a few bucks and a free cue. She is one of many that use OB, and sure there are plenty in the predator camp.

My teammate won the last two state championships in IL, with a predator and only reason he didn't win last year is he had the flu. He won't shoot without it.....