League -Getting a foul called on you that you know isn't.....

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Unless there is some kind of threat of violence then you should stand up for yourself in this situation.

 

[Bob Jewett]

The opponent calls a ref you don't.
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The problem with this is that the player knows better when he might be shooting a shot that could end in an argument. If the shooter doesn't come to the pool hall to argue and fight then he may want to make sure a third party is watching.

In the OP's case, I can see that he had no reason to believe the call would be close and a witness would be needed. Maybe one day all the lights over the tables will have playback cameras capable of seeing thin hits.

 

[us820]

I don’t play pool to argue with bar idiots.So I don’t.

 

[ShootingArts]

kinda did the reverse!

This is the Code.

If the OP is fair as he says, and the hit was good, the phrase one says is "It looked good to me," as they walk away. There is no argument.

If the hit was going to be so close, it is your opponent's imperative to call for a neutral observer, not the Shooter's. Any questionable calls are always settled in the Shooter's favor.

To hand over BIH is in the least, an admission of doubt that this hit could have been good.

An unscrupulous player will try to deny a foul to aid their advantage. A seasoned player will stand by the call because he knows the hit is a good one, and because unobserved hits play to their favor.


p.s.- I once saw a "savvy" player call a bad hit from their chair, with the Shooter's body obscuring the shot from them, and bully an inexperienced player into surrendering BIH. Don't be that victim.

When playing a jerk that tried to claim a foul when I didn't and denied all of their own fouls I started playing shape so my body was between them and the shot. Didn't take them long to realize that they were looking at my butt a lot with me bent over a shot while they were sitting in their chair. I can't remember them ever winning when I started doing that, they were too busy trying to catch me cheating! I wasn't, other than I suppose playing malicious shape which I have never seen a rule against!

Hu

 

[Swighey]

Happened to me once. I just said,”no it wasn’t” and played my next shot.

 

[DelawareDogs]

It was good of you to give up the cue ball, very sportsman like, and on any normal league
night probably best to avoid a volatile situation, but to me that's pretty much admitting
that the call they made was the correct one. One thing that I always tell the less
experienced players is don't get muscled (not that you're less experienced). Stick to
your guns, be strong until we can figure out exactly what happened. Don't lie or cheat,
but don't be so quick to give up the table. If the shooter thinks it's worth another look
then let's have another look, if need be we can always give up the table after that.

Very good insight, absolutely hit the mark on all points.

Tap,tap

I was more frustrated that they thought I would cheat/lie about a good hit, than giving up ball in hand on the good hit.....

And you're right, I should have stuck to my guns on it, but lessons learned

 

[DelawareDogs]

The problem with this is that the player knows better when he might be shooting a shot that could end in an argument. If the shooter doesn't come to the pool hall to argue and fight then he may want to make sure a third party is watching.

In the OP's case, I can see that he had no reason to believe the call would be close and a witness would be needed. Maybe one day all the lights over the tables will have playback cameras capable of seeing thin hits.

Yep, same here.

That 5 railer was either going to be obviously good hit or bad hit.

Had no idea it was going to thin it like that, but that's what happened. Thinned on the in - a quick bounce and hit it again......

I guess a picture might be in order....


And yes, sometimes we now use our camera phones to record the hit when a ref is called.