Try two or three in line, see what happens. Anyway back to my alien post, being able to throttle the effects, speed, spin, angle, etc is what will allow the most satisfying use of these controls. Kinda like the difference between everyday driving and brisk everyday driving.
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being able to identify and independently control variables makes sense to me..
personally, I take the bus, but tell you what, I can ride that sucker ^_^
I like your idea of lining up multiple balls tho- will have to mess around with that
Not my idea but thank you for your literary comprehension.
It's mostly about how throw works and I suppose transmits through multiple balls. Very useful stuff in 14.1 and one hole.I know that it's comfortable for you here in this forum and that's great, but I think it would be a tragedy to turn this forum into a secondary main forum. It's main purpose will get lost.
I've given up.
Welcome to the dawn of Fran's World!
LOL! Well, at least this person is consistent. I don't even understand what that means. The dawn of my world? The beginning of my world? What the heck??
I've just decided logical arguments will have zero impact so deal with him the same as you know who and totally ignore him. Eventually he'll go away.
Oh, you decided.
As long as pool is being discussed, I have a say here. As long as I care to say anything, I will. If the cookie cutters wish to feign confusion, their problem. Pool doesn't lie. Truth will prevail.
Nuther thing, why was evergruven treated so callously? Tragedy indeed.
It never occured to me to attempt throwing the last ball in a multi-ball frozen cluster/line. Probably doesn't come up much, but neat to have in your bag of tricks. I'll probably set some up the next time I'm at the table just to see what happens...
What do you mean by "throwing the last ball in a multi-ball frozen cluster/line?"
You can get a very small amount on the 3rd ball. After that, nothing.
If I remember correctly, only about 1/3 of each ball’s spin (at most) is transferred to the next ball. If true, that means the maximum amounts transferred to each ball are:
Cue ball - 100%
OB 1 - 1/3
OB 2 - 1/9
OB 3 - 1/27
OB 4 - fuggedaboudit
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This has nothing to do with spin, it's throw. But your numbers look pretty good for that too.
What I had in my head, was forcing the OB (last in cluster) off the it's dead (frozen combo) path by playing spin induced throw with the first ball in cluster.
Maybe I misinterpreted Straightline's comments.
That's pretty much what I thought you meant --- just wanted to confirm it --- I don't know what that other person meant who you were responding to, but with any cluster of 3 balls or more, you're basically better off just trying to read it and determine if it the shot 'goes.' You can't really manipulate those kinds of lines of frozen balls with spin.
Since the same friction force creates both, I’m guessing throw is reduced by the same fraction per ball (except the 1st OB is 100%, not the CB).This has nothing to do with spin, it's throw. But your numbers look pretty good for that too.
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chgo
I like to get this kind of info but I think this is about looking at multi ball situations where the two balls frozen are the ones pointed roughly towards the pocket.
This is the froze ball throw dynamic only instead of the cue ball contacting the frozen pair an object ball makes the contact.
In a cluster of balls there are often multiple directions that the pair can be contacted from.
Some players just draw a line between the ball centers and think it’s wired.
Then they hit it from the side and see it thrown to the rai or jaw instead.
In most cases that I see them they are missed because they are pointed just outside the pocket, but correct contact will pocket the end ball, yet the player cuts the plant the wrong way
Sometime another ball can be driven to the right contact point or a carom works when direct access isn’t available.
Hitting the right ball in the right spot is the key.
Watching where secondary balls will go is important too.
Hitting a ball into a rail where it bounces into the path can spoil imagined shots, even if the right contact spot is hit.