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A couple of weeks ago I spent the afternoon and evening with Lee Brett. I took a four hour lesson with him. He started off by telling me about his Snooker background. Then about his pool background. After this he asked me to hit some so he could watch and get a feel for my knowledge habits and traits. After a bit he stopped me had a soda and went through what he saw. He had over a page of notes about my stroke stance approach and shot routine. He then made few suggestions as to help in my game. Again he had me shoot a bit. Stopped me again. At this point he started me on his five Pre Shot steps. Showed me a new approach around the table. We then spent the rest of our time working on all of the above
By the time my four hours was up Lee had pretty much had me shooting much better. This on a triple shimmed Gold Crown I set up perfectly. Now its @ two weeks later my game is back on track. Yesterday I was back on that same table playing sets with a strong playing friend. I was amazed I was in much better stroke having practiced Lee's ideas and changes. Before the night was over I ran a three pack then a four more. I was getting out more consistently from every where. I just wanted to thank Lee by posting what I found by using his ideas and principals at the table. Even this short time
Buska95
 
Lee is the man.
A few hours with a knowledgeable instructor beats a few years without one every time.
 
buska95 said:
A couple of weeks ago I spent the afternoon and evening with Lee Brett. I took a four hour lesson with him. He started off by telling me about his Snooker background. Then about his pool background. After this he asked me to hit some so he could watch and get a feel for my knowledge habits and traits. After a bit he stopped me had a soda and went through what he saw. He had over a page of notes about my stroke stance approach and shot routine. He then made few suggestions as to help in my game. Again he had me shoot a bit. Stopped me again. At this point he started me on his five Pre Shot steps. Showed me a new approach around the table. We then spent the rest of our time working on all of the above
By the time my four hours was up Lee had pretty much had me shooting much better. This on a triple shimmed Gold Crown I set up perfectly. Now its @ two weeks later my game is back on track. Yesterday I was back on that same table playing sets with a strong playing friend. I was amazed I was in much better stroke having practiced Lee's ideas and changes. Before the night was over I ran a three pack then a four more. I was getting out more consistently from every where. I just wanted to thank Lee by posting what I found by using his ideas and principals at the table. Even this short time
Buska95
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What does Lee charge? I have heard good things about his teaching techniques
Maybe he will be in my area in the new year
 
peteypooldude said:
What does Lee charge? I have heard good things about his teaching techniques
Maybe he will be in my area in the new year
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I think LEAGUE TEAMS & League players should hire him to attend their state and regional meetings.

It would be very valuable to have a guy like him in your corner, COACHING.

Go Coach Lee Brett!

JoeyA
 
Dickhead actually really knows his stuff.... You know I have been raising up thru the stroke for hell maybe 30 years.... Adding a pause will fix it... SPF... But even those instructors are wrong in why you need to do it.... A pause is NOT about muscles and changes of direction it's about time.... Lee (aka dickhead) knows what time needs to be used for........

Chris
 
The Renfro said:
Dickhead actually really knows his stuff.... You know I have been raising up thru the stroke for hell maybe 30 years.... Adding a pause will fix it... SPF... But even those instructors are wrong in why you need to do it.... A pause is NOT about muscles and changes of direction it's about time.... Lee (aka dickhead) knows what time needs to be used for........

Chris
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His nickname is "Hooligan". :wink: But yea, he knows his stuff.

He just can't play one pocket. :D

JoeyA
 
Yeah, right Chris. We're wrong about what we researched, invented, and have taught for decades...yeah, sure we are. :rolleyes: Really, there's no need to knock somebody else, just because you want to pump up Lee. You can just be complimentary...especially since you don't know what you're talking about (IOW, you have received no SPF instruction, so you have no direct knowledge of it...just second hand).

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

The Renfro said:
Adding a pause will fix it... SPF... But even those instructors are wrong in why you need to do it.... A pause is NOT about muscles and changes of direction it's about time.... Lee (aka dickhead) knows what time needs to be used for........

Chris
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JoeyA said:
His nickname is "Hooligan". :wink: But yea, he knows his stuff.

He just can't play one pocket. :D

JoeyA
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If he wanted to work at it, I do think Lee could become a very good one-pocket player. He just seems to have the right mentality for it.

I was hoping to have the opportunity to exchange ideas with Lee face-to-face last month, but unfortunately he had to cancel his trip to Phoenix. I'm sure it was more my loss than it was his. :o

Roger
 
Scott Lee said:
Yeah, right Chris. We're wrong about what we researched, invented, and have taught for decades...yeah, sure we are. :rolleyes: Really, there's no need to knock somebody else, just because you want to pump up Lee. You can just be complimentary...especially since you don't know what you're talking about (IOW, you have received no SPF instruction, so you have no direct knowledge of it...just second hand).

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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You are correct my knowledge is 2nd hand..... And my source may not be all that reputable :thumbup:....

Scott Lee said:
Chris...Well then you've never seen Buddy shoot. He has a VERY defined pause at the end of the backswing...often 2-3 seconds. Allison and Karen's is about 1 second. Mine is about 2/10's of a second (very brief). The key is not how long the pause on the backswing is...but more about how smooth the transition is, from backswing to forward accerated stroke. BTW, the pause at the CB is at least as important, if not more important, as this is where we consciously/subconsciously "decide" if we're going to strike the CB on the next swing...or not. Almost all really good players pause at the CB...most also pause on the backswing...even if it's brief, like mine. You can't go backwards and then forwards without some kind of stop in between. Well, you can...but you will very likely jerk the cue forward, along with the associated problems of tight grip and involving the shoulder...all of which tend to exaggerate and exacerbate small errors in how and where the tip strikes the CB.

One thing to remember, above all...SPF is about TRAINING. When it's get 'grooved in' or ingrained, the process becomes very smooth...as noted by Scottycoyote. In training we advise the student to deliberately slow everything down, and exaggerate all three stops.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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This is not the reasoning I got for the pause from Lee although I cannot say that this is not ALSO a good reason... It alone was just never a good enough reason as my transition was fluid without the pause...

Chris
 
The Renfro said:
[COLOR="[COLOR="Red"][/COLOR]"]You are correct my knowledge is 2nd hand..... And my source may not be all that reputable :thumbup:....[/COLOR]



[COLOR="[COLOR="red"][/COLOR]"]This is not the reasoning I got for the pause from Lee although I cannot say that this is not ALSO a good reason... It alone was just never a good enough reason as my transition was fluid without the pause...

Chris[/COLOR]
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Chris...What I'm trying to help you to understand is that just to HAVE a fluid transition you have a pause, even if it is for 2/10's of a second...which is just long enough to change direction, and accelerate the cue forward, without jerking it. Everybody pauses...it's just a matter of how long. I think people are confused by what they think a "pause" is, because they believe it has to be long.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
 
Scott Lee said:
Chris...What I'm trying to help you to understand is that just to HAVE a fluid transition you have a pause, even if it is for 2/10's of a second...which is just long enough to change direction, and accelerate the cue forward, without jerking it. Everybody pauses...it's just a matter of how long. I think people are confused by what they think a "pause" is, because they believe it has to be long.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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Not to debate, but to my meomery Jimmy Reid didn't pause but seems very fluid. Me I like the pause but that's me...
 
Roger Long said:
If he wanted to work at it, I do think Lee could become a very good one-pocket player. He just seems to have the right mentality for it.

I was hoping to have the opportunity to exchange ideas with Lee face-to-face last month, but unfortunately he had to cancel his trip to Phoenix. I'm sure it was more my loss than it was his. :o

Roger
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Exchanging ideas with Lee would be a win-win situation for both of you Roger. And yes, Lee could be a good one pocket player and might still, if he puts his mind to it.

JoeyA
 
Scott Lee said:
Chris...What I'm trying to help you to understand is that just to HAVE a fluid transition you have a pause, even if it is for 2/10's of a second...which is just long enough to change direction, and accelerate the cue forward, without jerking it. Everybody pauses...it's just a matter of how long. I think people are confused by what they think a "pause" is, because they believe it has to be long.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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What I understand is the transition idea is only 1 reason for a pause and likely the least important to me in that everyone has a point of zero acceleration in either direction (ie. a pause) before starting forward..

What everyone should understand is coactivation of the triceps and biceps actually stabilizes the elbow joint to allow fine motions to occur with precision..Like stroking the cue down a straight line. So a pause won't remove the triceps from the stroke regardless of how long you pause.. I understand this is somewhat counter intuitive but physiology often is...

If someone has an overly aggressive back stroke I could see transitional problems as you would be fighting inertia but I don't think I have seen that characteristic in but a handful of players in all the years of playing and running a room for 9 years.....

The 2 reasons that mattered to me for an extended pause were to eliminate head and body movement and a new speed control technique (new to me at least Lee.. would likely consider it old. I always used touch and feel to handle speed)...

I'll try to get Lee to elaborate since these were ideas from him... The speed control I recall from somewhere else but the basis for the removal of movement I had not and it was a definite AHA! moment....

Chris
 
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