If you hit the cue ball hard with follow or draw and cut the object ball at a slight angle, the following will happen:
1. Upon collision, the object ball will move forward very fast. But the cue ball would get stuck there (what I call "it hesitates") for a very brief moment before moving again.
2. And when the cue ball moves, it will first slide sideway along the tangent line, and then go forward (or backward) in a parabola path.
Unless it is a double-hit, the cue ball will never travel almost as fast as the object ball, and the cue ball will never go forward at a sharp angle immediately without first sliding along the tangent line
To illustrate this to yourself, shoot such a shot with the cue ball and object ball set 2 feet apart. This "2 feet apart" is short enough that the effect would be exactly the same as "2 inches" apart, but you're know for sure what you won't double-hit.
You can see from Patrick's screenshot that, in the original shot, the cue ball goes forward too sharply (less than 45 degrees angle, no sideway sliding along the tangent line at all) and too quickly (reaching the rail almost right after the object ball). Both are strong indicators that it is a double-hit.
I just tried the shot myself, and made it on the first try! (Lucky, I promise
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Notice, my CB went forward maybe 1/4 ball diameter. I think this was actually due to the camera perspective and slight cut angle. I hit it with slight low right.
You can put the video to play on slow motion speed on the youtube settings. And I have the original recording that is 24 frames per second, and I can show further frames if anyone wants to see them (I think I can anyway...)
https://youtu.be/TPqeRt-7oXY
I thank you too (but not for Wybrook's reason). You have just demonstrated for us that the cue ball first "hesitates", and then slide sideawy along the tangent line, and then the draw takes and it curves along a parabolic path.
Like Patrick Johnson said, your shot is good but it's very different from the original shot. It doesn't prove or disprove anything about the original shot.
You were happy that you "made it". But the whole point of this discussion is not about pocketing the corner ball. It's about making a good hit.
Thank you..
I tried to tell people its a fairly easy shot, but things get over complicated I think..
If you strike it harder, and draw a bit more, you will get more of the reaction in the video. Plus, your cloth is not as new as the video so it won't slide as much..
Good shot.
If you can't tell that iusedtoberich's shot is different from the original shot, then I don't know what to say.
You jerked your stick back after striking the cue ball. What happens if you follow all the way through?
Nice table.
If he had followed all the way, he might have hit the cue ball twice. There's nothing wrong with pulling the cue back to avoid a double-hit. Sometimes you just have to do that.
My shot was the same "idea" as the Facebook video in question. Sure, the balls might have been an inch or so different locations, and of course, I did not have that blocking ball. But the point of the Facebook shot was to curve with a lot of draw, and come back into the hanging ball in the corner. My shot and the Facebook shot both took very similar paths.
The differeecnce between our shots, and the whole point of this thread, is that in the Facebook shot, the CB went forward of the tangent line (while having insane amounts of draw) by several ball diameters. My CB went forward of the tangent line only about 1/4 ball diameter, and as I said in my video post, that was most likely an optical illusion due to the camera angle and cut angle.
Both shots are fundamentally the same. Mine was a legal hit. The Facebook one was either a double hit, or a trick OB/CB mass setup.
The whole point of this discussion is whether you can shoot the Facebook shot without double-hitting. And you showed us a different shot.
To any future brave contestant: if you think you can make the cue ball goes forward directly and immediately at such a sharp angle without double-hitting, then do it again with the cue ball and object ball set 2 feet apart.
