Lesson with a pro player

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I took a lesson with a pro player yesterday. Was hoping he could show me a couple of things to work on that could help me improve. I learned how messed up my fundamentals are :( . Should be a fun project breaking everything down and rebuilding over the next year.
 
Spent three days with a pro instructor last spring. He pointed out many fundamental flaws in my stance, bridge, stroke and follow through. My game immediately deteriorated as I tried to assimilate all of those changes. But I knew I'd never improve to 'the next level' unless I did the hard work and corrected those flaws.

Many months later, my game has started to improve. I haven't had as much table time as I'd hoped during that period, but I know I'll continue to improve. Now when I hit a rough spot I can step back, assess what I'm doing, and usually identify which of the bad habits I've fallen back on. When I take my time and concentrate on all the fundamentals, I can shoot better than ever before. Just need to get that muscle memory in place!

Long story short, it was a good experience and I look forward to spending more time with the guy in the future.
 
I took a lesson with a pro player yesterday. Was hoping he could show me a couple of things to work on that could help me improve. I learned how messed up my fundamentals are :( . Should be a fun project breaking everything down and rebuilding over the next year.
sounds like you found a good instructor
 
This is the difference between good instruction now and lessons from pros 25 years ago. Back then, they were not really paying too much attention to stroke fundamentals- mostly the pro instruction was which ball to hit next and where to try and land after that shot. The level of attention paid to alignment, eye movements, straight strokes, etc. was minimal from older pros during paid lessons.

Without all the proper fundamentals, including a straight stroke, anyone is doomed to mediocrity. My two favorite teaching aids for pool are Mark Wilson's " Play Great Pool" - read it and stay with it for a full year including constant video review of your fundamentals until you have an excellent foundation for the game.

Couple doing that with some serious competition and keep the book " emotional Intelligence" in your back pocket- because most of the folks who get the fundamentals right, but break down along the way in competition, are probably letting poor emotional management in competitive situations dominate their ability to perform the way they had trained so hard to accomplish in battle.

You fight the fight on two fronts - one is to have as flawless as possible - your pool stroking foundation; and two, is to have the mental capacity to allow yourself to perform consistently at or close to maximum ability. Most of the very best have both things going for them way more than the average competitor.
 
Emotional intelligence by Daniel goleman?

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I took a lesson with a pro player yesterday. Was hoping he could show me a couple of things to work on that could help me improve. I learned how messed up my fundamentals are :( . Should be a fun project breaking everything down and rebuilding over the next year.
You are in the land of randyg, he can help you😉
 
I took a lesson with a pro player yesterday. Was hoping he could show me a couple of things to work on that could help me improve. I learned how messed up my fundamentals are :( . Should be a fun project breaking everything down and rebuilding over the next year.
Break it down and reconstruct it. Will help a lot, slow process.

best of luck,
Fatboy
 
This is the difference between good instruction now and lessons from pros 25 years ago. Back then, they were not really paying too much attention to stroke fundamentals- mostly the pro instruction was which ball to hit next and where to try and land after that shot. The level of attention paid to alignment, eye movements, straight strokes, etc. was minimal from older pros during paid lessons.

Without all the proper fundamentals, including a straight stroke, anyone is doomed to mediocrity. My two favorite teaching aids for pool are Mark Wilson's " Play Great Pool" - read it and stay with it for a full year including constant video review of your fundamentals until you have an excellent foundation for the game.

Couple doing that with some serious competition and keep the book " emotional Intelligence" in your back pocket- because most of the folks who get the fundamentals right, but break down along the way in competition, are probably letting poor emotional management in competitive situations dominate their ability to perform the way they had trained so hard to accomplish in battle.

You fight the fight on two fronts - one is to have as flawless as possible - your pool stroking foundation; and two, is to have the mental capacity to allow yourself to perform consistently at or close to maximum ability. Most of the very best have both things going for them way more than the average competitor.
Very good advice. Mark Wilson is great on parts of the game especially your fundamentals. I took a lesson with Mark and he showed me what I was doing wrong and how to correct it and how to notice if it pops up again. His book is great the most detailed book you will read on pool with the fundamentals. People can watch a 3 part video of Mark on YouTube.
 
Very good advice. Mark Wilson is great on parts of the game especially your fundamentals. I took a lesson with Mark and he showed me what I was doing wrong and how to correct it and how to notice if it pops up again. His book is great the most detailed book you will read on pool with the fundamentals. People can watch a 3 part video of Mark on YouTube.
One thing to note is that as one reconstructs their stroke because they see the flaws either from a lesson or their own video reviews of their stroke--very, very often it is the GRIP hand that is causing the stroke to be less than ideal. A cue grip that is too firm often is a result of some unconscious need within oneself to control the hit on the cue ball. Usually this has gone on for years with those that are thoroughly frustrated with a lack of improvement in their; game despite hours and hours of devoted practice and play.

Often, our video reviews focus on the front part of the shaft - to confirm that the tip movement looks as ideal as possible. when we see that the stroke is not happening as desired; the solution often resides with having LESS control of the cue stick and not more control of the cue stick.

Giving up "control" is a difficult habit to break- but absolutely necessary to get that cue stick stroking straight and through the cue ball to achieve maximum desired control of our ball pocketing and resulting desired cue ball position.

Trusting oneself and "letting go" of something we so desperately want to control is not easy to naturally accomplish for most people. This is the "other" mental side of the game that we need to understand and embrace.

I had lesson from pro Mike Zuglan back in 1991 when he was in his prime- "let the stick do the work" was his main theme- that could also be interpreted now as " don't try to control what happens with your grip hand- set up to the shot properly, focus on the OB contact point, and then let the arrow fly on its course without any interference from your self"
 
I'm just tired of being at the same level, desperate to improve I guess.
Time is your friend-until you get old. It’s lots of work, but it’s fun work. You are making good decisions.

best,
Fatboy
 
I'm just tired of being at the same level, desperate to improve I guess.

Well the better you play in Arizona, the fewer tournaments you will be able to play.

That is how it will go, being good is not a reward. It is handicap in AZ.😵‍💫
 
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