My friend has a 2001 Gilbert butt with a 3/8x10 joint that weighs 16 oz. The only shaft with it currently is some version of a Tiger, don't recall off the top of my head, I have no idea if it adds any value other than being a playable shaft. It a very slick looking mint cue. It is 4 point no veneers and appears to be a Coco butt sleeve and points with triple silver rings above and below the wrap and a double silver ring offset at the joint. I have a idea of what I think it is worth but, wanted to see if anyone had any opinions. Thx, Shooter08