Lets talk about Ivory Real Elephant Ivory that is.

PoolSleuth said:
Well maybe my Question is if the Sale of Deal Elephant Tusk (aka Ivory) is illegal than how come Cuemaker can sell Cues with Ivory Butt Caps, Joints, Ferrules, and Inlays, add to that Meuller's, and other suppliers sells Ivory Ferrules. Are we beating a DEAD PAKADIRM to death or what is the REAL DEAL..... with the Sale of Ivory?????

The ban is for IMPORTING IVORY INTO THE US. Any Ivory that is already here can be traded or sold, within the US, without penalty...JER
 
the question answered, again

PoolSleuth said:
Well maybe my Question is
if the Sale of Deal Elephant Tusk (aka Ivory) is illegal

it isn't - only bringing ivory into the country is illegal
 
Not all Ivory is banned.

Not all Ivory is banned. It depends on the country where it is exported from and the type of elephant. Elephants that die of natural causes on wildlife refuges or circuses are exempt from the ban. Plus you can still have Ivory from lots of animals that are not protected. A lot of those heavily inlaid cues from the phillipines are using ivory from Sperm Whale, Killer Whales, Narwhals, Walrus, Hippopotamus etc. Plus Mammoth Ivory is still legal too. There is a season in Russia (Siberia I think) where the glaciers recede and they harvest LOTS of Mammoth Ivory that is thousands of years old. I just read about this the other day that the season has just started again.
 
pawnmon said:
I can say without reservation that once cut up it is not possible to tell if ivory is pre ban or post ban, except for those who can tell a Sunkist orange from a non Sunkist orange without the printing or sticker. This may explain the robust supply of ivory in the U.S.
There is no robust supply of ivory in the states. It has become very hard to get quality uncarved tusks. Most tusks have numbers carved into them that will let fish and game see when and where they came from. I really don't think their is much of a ivory smuggling business going on in the USA as the small tusks you might bring in a suitcase are not very good for cues. And the large tusks would certainly raise customs eyes. Not to mention that the price in the US for Ivory is much lower than they could get by smuggling it to a place where they carve it in religious rituals.
 
cueandcushion said:
Not all Ivory is banned. It depends on the country where it is exported from and the type of elephant. Elephants that die of natural causes on wildlife refuges or circuses are exempt from the ban. Plus you can still have Ivory from lots of animals that are not protected. A lot of those heavily inlaid cues from the phillipines are using ivory from Sperm Whale, Killer Whales, Narwhals, Walrus, Hippopotamus etc. Plus Mammoth Ivory is still legal too. There is a season in Russia (Siberia I think) where the glaciers recede and they harvest LOTS of Mammoth Ivory that is thousands of years old. I just read about this the other day that the season has just started again.
In the USA for Interstate sales Walrus is only legal for Native American Eskimo's to use. Sperm Whale needs to be documented at 100 years old. Hippo and Mammoth are fine.
 
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