Limbsaver X-1

Yeah...in my opinion Grady and Buddy are 2 of my favorite players. No disrespect or harm intended towards either of them.

I just thought the claim of vibration was odd.......maybe it does work! The Don can give us some true numbers on this thingamajig! lol! I was skeptical of the thing when I saw cuetec involved!
 
I have never had a cue that had a lot of vibration in it but my buddy just got one. I have never seen anything like it. He got it off of E-bay, it has a snake skin wrap and a really long taper, no name, probably from the Phillipines. Just the movement of a warm up stroke and the friction of the bridge hand will cause the whole cue to get a shimmy. Harmonics must play a role in it. I don't think that even a Limbsaver could get rid of it :confused: , maybe a shaft with less taper?
 
Buddha Jones said:
I went to their website and it is sposed to do more than just dampen the vibration, I quote:
  • Dampened vibration of your cue stick
    Enhanced energy on your break
    Consistent English
    Controlled spin

    Is there anyway that we can test this?

    Grady, I hope that you are not taking this as an attack on you, at least not from me. I don't know you personaly but I have great respect for you and what you have done for this game that I love.
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  • Yeah we talked about these things a while ago. I think Grady was even shocked at some of the claims they said this little item did. It was when Bludworth was building that cue for Grady that this came up and everyone trying to support the Limbsaver said it did nothing but reduce the vibration and did not claim to do anything else but when the sight was quoted with the above cure all crap this little buttcap is supposed to do the supporters never posted again. Seriously I looked at the item and where it goes and ow it conects to the cue, how can anyone be fooled by this thing into thinking it does anything of note to the performance of a cue? I would love to see how all these claims are supposed to be true, it looks like pure false advertisement to me. I have some cheap oceanfront property for sale in Nevada for anyone who is interested in this product.
 
LimbSaver & Vibration

A tennis player can put a teflon insert specifically made for tennis string spacing on their racquet and it will reduce vibration. Golfers can use Sensicore shafts which are specifically made to reduce vibration when contact is made with the golf ball (the shaft maker(s) push a teflon or plastic piece halfway down the shaft and wedge it into place). At one time and maybe perhaps even now - cue makers put a piece of plastic or teflon under the wrap and called it a "buzz ring." That buzz ring reduced vibration. Some cuebuilders put a teflon insert into the joint when they build a cue with a 5/16x14 ss joint. That teflon piece will reduce the vibration and harshness in a metal jointed cuestick.

In both golf and tennis, due to the significant impact/vibration that can injure tendons - it makes sense to some to use those dampening devices to reduce
vibration.

It might make sense for some folks to use them on their cuesticks. They will probably make a cheap cue feel better but I would think that none of us would want to alter the feel of a well made, high dollar billiard instrument made by a master cuebuilder. :)
 
SirBanksALot said:
At one time and maybe perhaps even now - cue makers put a piece of plastic or teflon under the wrap and called it a "buzz ring." That buzz ring reduced vibration.
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Just for the sake of clarification, a buzz ring is installed in a cue at the "A" joint to prevent noise, not to prevent vibration. Many of the better cuemakers still use them.

As for the Limbsaver, it may or may not work. Never tried one, nor would I care to. I agree with the other poster in that vibration = feedback. Why attempt to eliminate it.
 
The way that vibration dampening for pool cues was explained to me is like this, if you hold your cue at the bottom(buttcap) and gently tap it at the joint with the palm of your hand you will be able to see the tip vibrate like a tunning fork.

This vibration is what happens when a ball is struck, the cue flex's into an S shape and then snaps straight thus imparting power to the cue ball, but when it snaps straight it vibrates therefore not imparting the full force of the cue to the ball.

The various vibrational dampeners lessen the vibration(tunning fork apperance) at the tip allowing the cue to transfer more force to the cue ball, thereby adding spin and power to any shot. This can also only be tested by striking a ball as that impact affects the cue by compressing it differently than the test I described. It also happens way to fast to be seen by the human eye.

It does not effect the cues overall harmonics(ie. how it feels to the player)

Just how it was explained to me hope it helps.

Bern
 
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I also respect these gentlemen however, I have used these things on cues that hit great and it made them hit like crap. It is like bunting a baseball in comparison to hitting a home run, I'm talking about feel. You just get a thud. I didn't like it. It did exactly what they say it will. I just didn't like what I felt in the hit. Butterflycues
 
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