Lol, nice move Scott
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LOL and at 37:50
Great sportsman, what genius pulls moves when they are on camera?
Great sportsman, what genius pulls moves when they are on camera?
As best I can tell, OP is pointing out that at 25:30, Scott made the 12 uptable but spotted the 8, not the 12. His implication is that Scott spotted one of Alex's balls. However, it's clear from the subsequent play that they both knew full well that Alex needed 1 ball and it didn't matter what ball Scott spotted (and you can't tell where the ball Scott did spot came from).
So, as for 25:30, there is *absolutely no* move by Scott. And you'd have to be looking for ways to levy an accusation against him, or not familiar with spotting balls made in other pockets in the game of one pocket, to see a "move".
At 37:50, the 2 ball runs, gently, into the cue stick after Scott kicks into the stack. You can't tell from the video where Scott is looking. OP is implying that Scott did it on purpose to improve the 2-ball position by perhaps an inch. Can't disprove that. But I think most players would naturally be looking at the cueball and the stack on that shot to see if they sold out the 7, 8, or 15. So, to me, probably no "move" here either.
So, as for 25:30, there is *absolutely no* move by Scott. And you'd have to be looking for ways to levy an accusation against him, or not familiar with spotting balls made in other pockets in the game of one pocket, to see a "move".
At 37:50, the 2 ball runs, gently, into the cue stick after Scott kicks into the stack. You can't tell from the video where Scott is looking. OP is implying that Scott did it on purpose to improve the 2-ball position by perhaps an inch. Can't disprove that. But I think most players would naturally be looking at the cueball and the stack on that shot to see if they sold out the 7, 8, or 15. So, to me, probably no "move" here either.
It looked like he let the 2? ball hit his cue to keep it off the rail but hard to say....I was distracted by what appeared to be paint drying on the wall behind them.
I watched it twice and you can see the 2 change direction... To me, unless the laws of motion and physics cease to exist on that table the 2 definitely hit the cue... The best part though is the conversation between commentators. Some funny stuff..:smile:
As I see it, the 2 ball hit his cue stick. That's why Alex was talking about a foul. I assume that the response was, "No foul." Touching a moving ball is a foul, even at "cue ball fouls only."
I watched it again 3 times. I sort of see what you mean with the two ball, I thought first it was coming to rest.
You guys are right, I am wrong. One guys says you are drubk, maybe not. two guys say you have had too much...probably so. Three guys say it, you are drubk. I am wrong.
Hard to believe that scott would pull a cheap stunt
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You guys are right, I am wrong. One guys says you are drubk, maybe not. two guys say you have had too much...probably so. Three guys say it, you are drubk. I am wrong.
Hard to believe that scott would pull a cheap stunt
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The 8 ball spot was on purpose. He spotted the 8 ball because it is the hardest ball to aim on.
The old hustlers did that all the time. Not against the rules, but definitely done on purpose. If he was scoring correctly, the 12 would have spotted
The 2 ball nudge was slick. Not too many people would let that sleep and he pulled it under everyone's noses.
The old hustlers did that all the time. Not against the rules, but definitely done on purpose. If he was scoring correctly, the 12 would have spotted
The 2 ball nudge was slick. Not too many people would let that sleep and he pulled it under everyone's noses.
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Well I got you now ... but what caught my interest was the fact that when Alex hit the eight ball it skidded and he missed the shot. A shot that he would make the majority of the time - he missed it by a mile...
So I thought you might of been suggesting that Scott transferred a bit of wax from his finger to the eight ball when he spotted it - This is another classy move performed by integrity challenged players.
Nice eye - you should be a Ref!
I call BS. The 8-ball isn't harder for me to aim on, so I *really* doubt it's hard for Alex to aim on.
Also, Scott pulled a ball and spotted it without looking down.
Wow - you guys are creating something out of thin air.
A ball is a ball - is a ball.
Common practice in one pocket to just grab a ball and spot it. If you were to wait for the 'pocketed ball' to return, you are waiting awhile (on some tables). That takes time and after awhile will grind on the players.
On the second situation. Accidents happen. Why assume the worst. And mistakes happen - why assume the player is 'moving'?
You know the players sometimes are their own worst enemies. Sometimes the peanut gallery is just as bad.
Just my two cents. And I am as hard on unethical behavior as anyone. Some people need to have a reality check.
Markg
A ball is a ball - is a ball.
Common practice in one pocket to just grab a ball and spot it. If you were to wait for the 'pocketed ball' to return, you are waiting awhile (on some tables). That takes time and after awhile will grind on the players.
On the second situation. Accidents happen. Why assume the worst. And mistakes happen - why assume the player is 'moving'?
You know the players sometimes are their own worst enemies. Sometimes the peanut gallery is just as bad.
Just my two cents. And I am as hard on unethical behavior as anyone. Some people need to have a reality check.
Markg
Valid points, but there are some interesting observations to be made here.
Let's start with the eight ball spot .. When Alex hit the eight it took off like it was on skies. I am not assuming a move here, just making an observation.
When the Two Ball hit the end of his cue he could feel it .. We all know this, so if Scott hit the ball intentionally or not, he did know that the two hit the end of his cue.
Wow.. out of thin air? We are all watching the same video aren't we?
Nothing was accidental about leaving his cue stick there to barely touch the 2ball to keep it off the rail.. Nice try to belittle the people in this forum though.
"The peanut gallery"
I like Scott Frost. I like his playing style.
But this reminds me of the Tahoe Dippy Dave days!
But this reminds me of the Tahoe Dippy Dave days!
Scott took advantage of his lazy score keeping and grabbed the 8. If he were scoring his balls, only the 12 would have been available to spot. Ask the old timers about putting the 8 on the spot. It was routine to use the 8 because it is the hardest to aim on from 8 feet away.
I didn't like how the 8 reacted, but I won't presume the ball was doctored as has been insinuated... however, his choice showed cunning.
There's a reason the 1 and 5 are required on the corners for straight pool breaks.
Hitting a moving object ball advantageous to your position in One Pocket is typically loss of game immediately.
That 2 ball bounced a fair amount to just not notice it.