Looking for the Magic Stroke

[Neil]

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[Scott Lee]

Aw c'mon Johnnyt! You don't really think we "panic" do ya? Most of us are very busy. I'm busier than most because I choose to travel the entire country, rather than just teaching in one area. I just wanted to point out that it is indeed possible to teach a beginner to become a champion...given the right person and the right attitude. You're correct about the number. Although my students (and yes, there have been thousands) have won 17 national titles, this one was the only one who started from scratch. Neil is right too...the student has to have regular access to the instructor...and even then, only a minute few will become great players.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

I have to laugh. Everytime there is anything on here thats even remotely negative or might hint of over teaching, here come the parade of BCA cert. teachers to protect their turf. What do you guys have, a panic button to one another. LMAO. Johnnyt

 

[goettlicher]

I have to laugh. Everytime there is anything on here thats even remotely negative or might hint of over teaching, here come the parade of BCA cert. teachers to protect their turf. What do you guys have, a panic button to one another. LMAO. Johnnyt

PRIDE.....SPF=randyg

 

[Snoogi]

I will agree that MOST students do not become A players from D players. But I also feel that if they had the teacher with them regularly, not just for a lesson or two, but most of the time, they would get up to an A or better.

I also feel that the mechanics, as important as they are, are only about 10-20% of the 'game'. Mental is the rest of it. That is the part that can really hold one back, and can take YEARS to learn the REAL basics of it. ( Although less than years nowdays thanks to things like this forum. But it can still take a long time to sink in what you actually read here.)

As SPINDOKTOR pointed out, dead stroke is what you want to achieve all the time. Where your subconscious plays the table. That really takes practice- letting go and trusting yourself to do what you know to do.

That's probably not learning anymore but strengthening on the foundation. Real long term consistency..it may take many years to actually turn all the theories into practical. Taking pool lessons may be costly for some, especially the non-working folks..I believe Efren and Busta and some other pioneers started out without coaches and instructors..they picked up through money games for survival..in other words, these players achieved their strokes through pressure.

 

[pooltchr]

What I don?t think happens is that an instructor can make a D player into a A player.

I guess I need to join in the "parade" here. I actually agree with what you said here. No instructor can make a D player into an A player. What a good instructor CAN do is show a student how to practice and learn the game. Only the player can make himself or herself into a better player. We simply give them a road map to get where they want to go. They need to do the driving on their own. We don't teach people to play pool, but we sure can show them how they can learn to play pool. The rest is up to the individual.
Steve

 

[Snapshot9]

Lol

You can't teach motivation and perseverance, but you can get someone excited enough where they will find it in themselves.

I don't like getting beat at any sport, and a couple of other things, plus I was little growing up, so I had to be faster, smarter, and strong to excel. These things within me were shaped before I ever came to a Pool table, and they motivated me to try to be the best that I could.

Guess the simple answer is: Do you care enough to give it everything you have! mentally, physically, and emotionally

 

[Johnnyt]

I guess I need to join in the "parade" here. I actually agree with what you said here. No instructor can make a D player into an A player. What a good instructor CAN do is show a student how to practice and learn the game. Only the player can make himself or herself into a better player. We simply give them a road map to get where they want to go. They need to do the driving on their own. We don't teach people to play pool, but we sure can show them how they can learn to play pool. The rest is up to the individual.
Steve

I'll go along with this. Johnnyt